Plotting electric field lines of a dipole

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The discussion revolves around the plotting of electric field lines for an electric dipole, represented by an equation involving the distance and angles related to the dipole's configuration. Participants are examining the correctness of the provided equation and its implications for the electric field characteristics.

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  • Participants are questioning the validity of the given equation for the electric field of a dipole and comparing it to known characteristics of dipoles versus like charges. There is also exploration of how time might affect the electric field lines.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and alternative equations. Some have pointed out potential discrepancies in the original equation, while others are exploring the implications of time dependency in the context of electric fields.

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There is mention of a possible calculation mistake regarding the equation for the electric field, and participants are considering the implications of the dipole moment and its dependence on polar coordinates.

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I was given this equation as the lines of electric fields of a dipole(two opposite charges separated by a finite distance)
e=(1/r^3)*((3cos^2(theta)-1)^2 +sin^2(2theta))^0.5
and I was asked to plot it.
I guess it must be something like this:
250px-VFPt_dipole_electric.svg.png

but when I try to plot it in wolframalpha.com in polar coords.I don't get the output I expect.
The question is is it the right equation?
 
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Hmm, I also graphed it with wolfram, and it appears to not follow the characteristics of a dipole. It more appears to follow the characteristics of the electric field for like charges, rather than unlike.
 
Welcome to PF, silverfox! :smile:

I checked what the equation is for an electric dipole and found this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dipole#Field_from_an_electric_dipole

If I work this out in polar coordinates, I get a slightly different formula than the one you have for what appears to be the magnitude of the electric field.
(You can use that \mathbf{p} = qd\cos\theta \mathbf{\hat r} - qd\sin\theta \hat{\textbf{θ}}.)
Can it be that you or someone else made a calculation mistake?
 
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I worked a bit more on the problem but I couldn't find an equation myself nor could plot the ones you said or I found on wikipedia...
I was told that if E(r, theta) is the first equation I wrote then E(r, theta, t) would be the same thing times sin(wt) but I don't get it, How does time affect the electric field lines?
And I also thought that p is a border between + and - charges in a dipole which is equal to qd and is a constant value am I wrong?
 
In the link I gave you can find an equation for E containing only p and r as variables.
If you substitute the p I gave in my post, you get E(r,θ).
The formula you gave in the OP looks like |E(r,θ)|, but it is not quite right.

It does not have a time dependency.
To make it time dependent, you would need to make the 2 charges time dependent.

p is the vector dipole moment, which is constant.
It is given by p=qd, where -q and +q are the charges, and d is the constant vector from the negative charge to the positive charge.

However, a constant vector is dependent on θ in polar coordinates, since the unit vectors change with θ.
 

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