Polar Coordinates: Find dy/dx Problem Solution

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding the derivative dy/dx in the context of polar coordinates. Participants are examining a specific problem involving trigonometric identities and their application in differentiation.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the equivalence of their calculations for dy/dθ and express confusion regarding the application of trigonometric identities. There are attempts to clarify the steps involved in the differentiation process.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with some participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There is recognition of different interpretations of the calculations, and some participants express a need for further understanding of trigonometric concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention feeling overwhelmed by trigonometry and express a desire to revisit foundational concepts, indicating a potential gap in understanding that may affect their problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement



Find dy/dx
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The answer for this is
dy/dx = [tex]-cos\theta sin\theta + (1-sin\theta)cos\theta[/tex]/[tex]-cos^2\theta - (1-sin/theta)sin\theta[/tex] I cannot figure out why I'm not getting the same or equivalent for dy/dtheta... and trig makes me woozy.
 
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Your [itex]dy/d\theta[/itex] is equivalent. Take a look at the second to last line of your calculation before you used the double angle equation.
 
I did Peng Peng, but I just can't see it -_- Which type of identity did they use?
 
They didn't! [itex]\cos(\theta) - 2\sin(\theta)\cos(\theta) = -\cos(\theta)\sin(\theta) +(1-\sin(\theta))\cos(\theta)[/itex]

The tex translator seems to be pooping itself.
 
@_@ I really need to take another trig class...let me try to work it out.
 
Just write out the right hand side. There is no trig involved. They just wrote down the answer in a way that the 'r' shows up again. They could have written it

[itex]-\cos(\theta)\sin(\theta) +r\cos(\theta)[/itex]

if they wanted to be more explicit.
 
omg I see it now...maybe I need to take another algebra class -_-

Thx peng!
 
Pengwuino said:
Just write out the right hand side. There is no trig involved. They just wrote down the answer in a way that the 'r' shows up again. They could have written it

[itex]-\cos(\theta)\sin(\theta) +r\cos(\theta)[/itex]

if they wanted to be more explicit.

yes thanks peng I saw it after I started to think "algebra" and not trig -_-
 

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