Double integral with polar coordinates

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The discussion revolves around a double integral problem involving polar coordinates, where the original poster is attempting to set up the integral for a specific region defined by certain bounds. The subject area includes calculus and integration techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of polar coordinates and question the appropriateness of the chosen limits for the integral. There are attempts to clarify the bounds of the region and the setup of the integral, with some participants suggesting alternative approaches and questioning the assumptions made about the region.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the setup of the integral. Some guidance has been offered regarding the limits of integration, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution yet.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the correct limits for the integral, particularly concerning the bounds of the region and the use of polar coordinates. Participants are also addressing the need for a diagram to better understand the region in question.

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Homework Statement
Let ##A=\{(x,y)\in\mathbb{R}^2| 1\leq y \leq 2, x\geq 0, x^2+(y-1)^2\leq1\}## then ##\iint_A\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}## is
Relevant Equations
##x=r\cos\theta##
##y=r\sin\theta##
Hello there,
I'm struggling in this problem because i think i can't find the right ##\theta## or ##r##

Here's my work:

##\pi/4\leq\theta\leq\pi/2##
and
##0\leq r\leq 2\sin\theta##

So the integral would be: ##\int_{\pi/4}^{\pi/2}\int_{0}^{2\sin\theta}\sin\theta dr d\theta##

Which is equal to: ##\pi/4+1/2## but this is not the right solution..(##1/2## is the correct one)

Any help? Thank you in advance!
 
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Why are you using polar coordinates?
 
I don't know another way to solve it.. i mean is not required but is the only way i know this time
 
Archimedess said:
I don't know another way to solve it.. i mean is not required but is the only way i know this time

Have you drawn a diagram of the region ##A##?
 
PeroK said:
Have you drawn a diagram of the region ##A##?

Yes, i notice that ##1\leq y \leq 2## and ##0\leq x \leq ?## the half semicircle
 
Archimedess said:
Yes, i notice that ##0\leq x \leq 1## and ##1\leq y \leq ?## the half semicircle
Your original post says ##1 \le y \le 2##.
 
PeroK said:
Your original post says ##1 \le y \le 2##.
Yes, sorry edited my post

The problem is now how do i write that half semicircle
 
Archimedess said:
Yes, sorry edited my post

The problem is now how do i write that half semicircle

Is it ##0 \le y \le 2##?
 
PeroK said:
You'll need to change coordinates first before you can easily use polar coordinates.
Sure, that's what i did in my post i think..

I was trying something different like: ##\int_{1}^{2}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{1-(y-1)^2}}\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}dxdy##

But i think is way more easy with polar coordinates once you find the right values..
 
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PeroK said:
Is it ##0 \le y \le 2##?
Nope.. ##1 \le y \le 2## is correct
 
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Archimedess said:
Sure, that's what i did in my post i think..

I was trying something different like: ##\int_{1}^{2}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{1-(y-1)^2}}\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}dxdy##

But i think is way more easy with polar coordinates once you find the right values..

You should be able to do the ##dy## integral first. But, it gets messy after that.
 
  • #12
Archimedess said:
Sure, that's what i did in my post i think..

I was trying something different like: ##\int_{1}^{2}\int_{0}^{\sqrt{1-(y-1)^2}}\frac{y}{x^2+y^2}dxdy##

But i think is way more easy with polar coordinates once you find the right values..

You're right. It does come out more easily using polar coodinates. But,
Archimedess said:
Here's my work:

##\pi/4\leq\theta\leq\pi/2##
and
##0\leq r\leq 2\sin\theta##

This is not right. The lower limit for ##r## is not ##0##.
 
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This is not right. The lower limit for ##r## is not ##0##.
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Should it be 1? Even if i use 1 the solution is not right
 
  • #14
Archimedess said:
Should it be 1? Even if i use 1 the solution is not right
It's a function of ##\theta##. It can't be constant.
 

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