Polar Double Integral: Converting and Evaluating

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves evaluating a double integral by converting it from Cartesian to polar coordinates. The integral is defined over specific bounds for x and y, and participants are discussing the appropriate limits for r and theta in the polar coordinate system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to determine the correct bounds for r and theta after converting the integral to polar coordinates. There is discussion about the shape of the region defined by the original limits and how to derive the polar limits from it.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the limits for r and theta, with some participants questioning the original bounds and others confirming the derived limits. A potential discrepancy in the evaluation results from the rectangular and polar forms has been noted, prompting further checks and discussions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of the original problem statement and are addressing potential typos and misunderstandings regarding the limits of integration. The discussion includes references to the geometric interpretation of the region involved.

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Homework Statement


Given the integral: \int_1^2\int_{\frac{3}{\sqrt{x}}}^{\sqrt{3}x}{{(x^2+y^2)}^{\frac{3}{2}}}dy \; dx. Convert to polar and evaluate.

Homework Equations


r=\sqrt{(x^2+y^2)}


The Attempt at a Solution


Ok, I've gotten bounds on \theta, \frac{\pi}{6} \le \theta \le \frac{\pi}{3}. I'm not sure what the bounds for r should be, otherwise I have the integral:
\int_\frac{\pi}{6}^\frac{\pi}{3}\int_{?}^{?}{r^3}dr \; d\theta
 
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Do you have that x-y integral right? Did you draw a sketch of the region? At x=1 the lower limit of y is 3 and the upper limit is sqrt(3). At x=2 the lower is 3/sqrt(2) and the upper is 2*sqrt(3). The two limits are equal at theta=pi/3. This sounds really funny. At the very least, I don't believe your theta limits.
 
That is the rectangular integral given in the book. I think the region is a quadrilateral-like thing that is enclosed by x=1,2 and y=rt(3)x, x/rt(3). I found the limits for theta by setting tan(theta)=rt(3), 1/rt(3) because then the thetas produce the necessary lines.
 
That helps. In the problem statement you wrote 3/sqrt(x), not x/sqrt(3). Yes, the region is a trapezoid (a quadrilateral-like thing). Now I agree with your theta limits. That means your r limits will be a function of theta, right? Find them by intersecting a line at an angle theta through the origin with the two vertical lines in your quadrilateral-like thing.
 
Wow, I'm sorry for that typo. That would change things. Would the correct limits for r be \frac{1}{cos(\theta)}\text{and}\frac{2}{cos(\theta)}?
 
They sure would. Don't forget dx*dy=r*dr*dtheta.
 
Hmm, to check it, I plugged both expressions into my calculator and they're spitting out different numbers. The rectangular one gives me around 28.4 and the polar one gives me around 10.6.
 
dtl42 said:
Hmm, to check it, I plugged both expressions into my calculator and they're spitting out different numbers. The rectangular one gives me around 28.4 and the polar one gives me around 10.6.

You've got a better calculator than I do. Did you catch "Don't forget dx*dy=r*dr*dtheta." I edited that into my last post.
 
Ok, I've mastered my 'calculator'. I get 28.4 for both. Not exactly, of course.
 

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