Position function x(t) question

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The problem involves finding the position function x(t) given the acceleration function a(t) = 4(t + 3)², with initial conditions v0 = -1 and x0 = 1. Participants are exploring the implications of the non-constant acceleration on the formulation of x(t).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Some participants attempt to apply the standard kinematic equation for position under constant acceleration, questioning its validity given the non-constant acceleration. Others suggest integrating the acceleration function to derive the velocity and subsequently the position function, while also considering the initial conditions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the need to integrate the acceleration function and apply initial conditions. There is recognition of the challenges faced by those unfamiliar with the material, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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Participants note that the course expects prior knowledge of the concepts involved, which may be a barrier for those without a strong background in physics. The discussion reflects a mix of familiarity and uncertainty regarding the integration process and its application to the problem.

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the problem is given a(t)=4(t+3)^2, v0=-1, x0=1 find x(t), the position function

to my knowledge x(t)= 1/2at^2+v0t+x0

I tried it and got the wrong answer, the answer the book gives is: 1/3(t+3)^4 - 37t -26

I did:

x(t)= 1/2 [4(t+3)^2)]t^2 - 1t +1
eventually getting: 4t^2 + 24t + 9 for the part in parenthesis
and 2t^4 +12t^2 + 9/2t^2 after multiplying by t^2 and then 1/2

What I'm getting it shaping up to look nothing like the answer, so I know I'm missing something big here.
 
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becksftw said:
the problem is given a(t)=4(t+3)^2, v0=-1, x0=1 find x(t), the position function

to my knowledge x(t)= 1/2at^2+v0t+x0
This expression for x(t) relies on the assumption that the acceleration is constant, which is not the case here.
I tried it and got the wrong answer, the answer the book gives is: 1/3(t+3)^4 - 37t -26

I did:

x(t)= 1/2 [4(t+3)^2)]t^2 - 1t +1
eventually getting: 4t^2 + 24t + 9 for the part in parenthesis
and 2t^4 +12t^2 + 9/2t^2 after multiplying by t^2 and then 1/2

What I'm getting it shaping up to look nothing like the answer, so I know I'm missing something big here.
By definition, you have a(t)=v'(t) and v(t)=x'(t). If you start with a(t)=constant, you can derive the equation x(t)=x0+v0t+1/2at2. This is probably covered in your textbook or notes.

In this problem, you want to do the same thing except start with the given expression for a(t).
 
Its for a course that already expects you to remember to remember this, we're just doing the quick review chapter in the beginning. I've never taken physics though, so I hardly every deal with this stuff, so I forgot exactly how to go about the problem. So are you saying then that I want to integrate a(t)?
 
*integrate a(t) twice
 
Yes, and use the initial conditions to determine the constants of integration.
 

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