Possibly the simplest quantum physics question EVER

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The problem involves a double-slit experiment in quantum physics, where a beam of electrons strikes a barrier with two slits, and the resulting electron detection rate at a screen is questioned. The original poster is uncertain about the equations needed to approach the problem and speculates that the answer might be 20 electrons per second when both slits are open.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the concepts of amplitudes, intensities, and phase differences related to the double-slit experiment. The original poster expresses confusion about how to apply these concepts to determine the electron arrival rate when both slits are open. Others suggest considering the interference effects and the relationship between amplitudes and intensities.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the implications of wave interference and the relationship between amplitude and intensity. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to consider constructive and destructive interference, but no consensus has been reached on the specific approach to solving the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of quantum behavior and interference patterns, with some expressing uncertainty about how to relate the single slit intensity to the double slit scenario. There is also mention of textbook references for the relationship between intensity and amplitude.

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Homework Statement



A beam of electrons strikes a barrier with two narrow but equal-width slits. A screen is located beyond the barrier, and electrons are detected as they strike the screen. The 'center' of the screen is the point equidistant from the slits. When either slit alone is open, 10 electrons arrive per second in a very small region at the center of the screen. When both slits are open, how many electrons will arrive per second in the same region at the center of the screen? (Question 11, Chapter 4)

Homework Equations



Not really sure... This is why I'm stuck. I can't think of any equations to use to approach this type of problem.

The Attempt at a Solution



My intuitive guess is 20.. For obvious reasons. I just don't see my teacher putting such an informal and simple question on our assignment. Is there a more formal way to solve for the answer to this question?
 
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The answer is not 20.
What do you know about amplitudes and intensities behind a double slit?
Phase difference is another keyword.
 
mfb said:
The answer is not 20.
What do you know about amplitudes and intensities behind a double slit?
Phase difference is another keyword.

I know that all wavelengths constructively interfere in the exact center because the waves from each slit travel the same distance to the center. I also know that the maximum steadily decreases to a point some distance from the center where the waves from one slit destructively interfere with the waves from another.

This seems a little bit hard to apply though.. When I think of a "beam" of electrons, I think of one electron reaching the double slit, followed by another electron reaching the double slit, etc. I can see a single electron interfering with itself and having a probability distribution like that of an interference pattern, but what do I do with this info?

It's basically telling me the amplitude of the single slit maximum right? I'm not sure how to use this to find the amplitude of the double slit maximum.
 
I can see a single electron interfering with itself and having a probability distribution like that of an interference pattern, but what do I do with this info?
What do you know about the phases from the two slits, what do you know about amplitudes and their relation to intensities?

It's basically telling me the amplitude of the single slit maximum right?
You have something related to the amplitude.
 
mfb said:
What do you know about the phases from the two slits, what do you know about amplitudes and their relation to intensities?

Are you hinting at amplitude and intensity being proportional to each other? I'm sorry, I'm still very confused... What do you mean by the "phases between the two slits"? Are you talking about the difference in distance (Δx) traveled by the electron as compared to the wavelength of the electron? If I know Δx and the wavelength of the electron, the only thing I personally know how to do with this is locate the minima and maxima, I don't know how to find the intensities of these minima or maxima... Furthermore, I don't know how to relate these intensities with the given intensity of the single slit maxima..
 
Are you hinting at amplitude and intensity being proportional to each other?
They are not proportional to each other.

What do you mean by the "phases between the two slits"? Are you talking about the difference in distance (Δx) traveled by the electron as compared to the wavelength of the electron?
Right.

Fill in:
You know that the distance from both slits to the maximum is the same. This means ____ interference between both (=you have a ____).

Amplitudes from different sources (different slits) can be _____ to get the overall amplitude.
Let's assume the amplitude with just the first slit is 1 (units don't matter here). The amplitude with just the second slit is 1 as well due to the symmetry. If both slits are open, you can _____ the amplitudes and the result is _____ (due to the first "___").

The relation between intensity and amplitude is in your textbook, and nearly every description of the double-slit experiment. Once you have the amplitudes (for 1 and for 2 slits), the intensities are easy to calculate.
 

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