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Potential Difference of an Insulating Sphere

  1. Sep 19, 2012 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    Charge 6.00 is distributed uniformly over the volume of an insulating sphere that has radius = 5.00 .

    What is the potential difference between the center of the sphere and the surface of the sphere?

    2. Relevant equations

    ΔVab= -∫E*dl

    Electric field inside an insulating sphere is E=Qr/4∏ε0R3

    3. The attempt at a solution

    I am not sure where to begin. I think there is some ingration with the electric field equation, but I don't know if I use the same one for the surface of the sphere.
     
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  3. Sep 20, 2012 #2

    Simon Bridge

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    You know how the field inside the sphere changes with radius ... you wrote the equation down. So that is a good place to start.

    What is the relationship between potential and electric field?
     
  4. Sep 20, 2012 #3
    Is it not the first relevant equation I wrote down? The change in potential is the negative integral of the electric field multiplied times the integral of the length...which would be the radius in this case.
     
  5. Sep 21, 2012 #4
    I still don't understand how to solve it. I figured out the electric field inside of an insulator however, and why it looks the way it does.

    E=Qr/4∏ε0R^3

    Where r is the distance of a Gaussian sphere inside the insulator from the center to r.

    However, how would I know what r is, and does it ultimately matter? I also still don't see how this will fit with the ΔV equation, assuming that is what I need. I thought about considering the center of the sphere as a point charge, but that didn't get me the right answer.
     
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  6. Sep 21, 2012 #5

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    No - I mean you need the solution to the relation for the inside of a sphere.

    If you haven't seen it before in your course then, yes, you will have t do the integration (if you've seen the differential form of Maxwell'd equations - that's easier.) Which also means that I cannot tell you how to do it ... you have to make the attempt and then I can help you out where you get stuck.

    Two values of r are given to you.
    You need an equation for V(r), then you can find the potential at different radii, and, therefore, the difference in potential for any two radii.
    Well no. The charge is the charge-density times the volume and the volume of a point is zero - so the total charge at the point r=0 is zero.

    Note: below, under "similar threads" there are a lot of clues.
     
  7. Sep 21, 2012 #6
    I looked at the other similar threads earlier today and one of them seemed to be stuck in the same place I am. Like the poster, I think I was just missing part of the equation...

    V(r)-V(R)=∫E*dl

    Plug in everything and solve for V(r) which turns out to look like this.

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    I tried to figure out how to get this and I can't. I am not even sure if this will be a given equation on the upcoming midterm. My professor says he will provide us with an equation sheet, but he has yet to upload it.
     
  8. Sep 21, 2012 #7

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    You know the electric field inside a sphere of uniform charge distribution and you know that E=-∇V ... so put the ∇ in spherical coordinates and solve the differential equation that results. This will give you V(r): 0≤r≤R

    You can finness the calculation using known results ... eg. the potential at the surface is the same as that at distance R from a point charge at the origin. The electric field at the origin must be zero - therefore the potential is a constant there.

    Since you only care about a potential difference - does it matter where you put V=0?

    But I suspect you need to revise electrostatic potentials from the beginning - and study the examples already provided. If you want you can try $$V(r)=-\int_\infty^r E(r^\prime)dr^\prime$$... from knowing E(r).


    Note:
    http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/... of a uniformly charged insulating sphere.htm
     
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