Potential of ring with sphere inside it

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric potential of a grounded conducting sphere located at the center of a charged ring. The parameters include the radius of the sphere, the radius of the ring, the height above the z-axis, and the charge density of the ring.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential of the sphere and the ring, with some suggesting the method of image charges as a possible approach. Questions arise about how to apply this method in the context of a grounded sphere surrounded by a ring.

Discussion Status

Several participants are exploring different aspects of the problem, particularly focusing on the method of image charges. There is an exchange of ideas regarding the setup of the image charge for the grounded sphere in relation to the charged ring, indicating a productive dialogue without a clear consensus yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the application of the method of image charges specifically for the configuration of a grounded sphere and a surrounding ring. There is mention of needing to adapt known methods for simpler charge configurations to this more complex scenario.

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Hi,

I'm trying to find the potential of conducting grounded sphere with radius Rs which located in the center of charged ring with Rr (>Rs) with charge density λ, h meters up to the z axis (see the attached images)


Rs=4.3[cm]
Rr=6.6[cm]
h=13.1[cm]
λ=1.0[esu/cm]

The answer should be 0.81023024

2. The attempt at a solution

The sphere potential is easy one -
\Phi ring=\frac{2\pi Rr\lambda}{\sqrt{z^2+Rr^2}}
But how do I get the potential of the sphere?
I've tried to use the image charged method, but I can't get to the right answer.
Can somebody help me?

Thanks,
Adam
 

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adamp121 said:
I'm trying to find the potential of conducting grounded sphere
Doesn't sound too hard :wink:. Am I missing something?
 
Can you give me some clue about the calculation of the sphere's potential?
 
adamp121 said:
Can you give me some clue about the calculation of the sphere's potential?

I don't know how to calculate the sphere's potential but the problem can be easily done by method of image charges. Did you try that?
 
Yes.

I know how to replace a grounded sphere near to a single particle, but don't know how to replace a grounded sphere with surrounded ring.
I have only the ring’s potential on the Z axis, and it makes it harder.
 
adamp121 said:
I know how to replace a grounded sphere near to a single particle, but don't know how to replace a grounded sphere with surrounded ring.

Like a point charge, you can replace the grounded sphere with a ring here in this case.
 
adamp121 said:
I've tried it also, where I set the image ring with charge -
q'=-2/pi\frac{Rs}{Rr}
Do you mean ##\displaystyle q'=-\frac{R_s}{R_r}Q## where ##Q=\lambda \cdot 2\pi R_r##?

R'=\frac{Rs^2}{Rr}
Correct!
 
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