Potential of two surfaces coming together

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The discussion revolves around the potential of two spherical water droplets with charge when they combine. Participants explore the relationship between charge, radius, and potential, focusing on the mathematical implications of volume and geometry in this context.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the potential of the combined droplets should double if both the radius and charge double.
  • Another participant corrects this by stating that the radius does not double, but instead changes by the cube root of 2 due to volume considerations.
  • There is a discussion about how the volume of the droplets relates to their radius and how to derive the new radius from the combined volume.
  • Participants clarify that the radius of the new combined droplet can be calculated from the volume of the original droplets, leading to the expression for the new radius.
  • One participant expresses confusion over the calculations involving the potential and the factors derived from the radius change.
  • Another participant explains that the potential is proportional to the charge and inversely proportional to the radius, leading to a factor of 2^(2/3) for the potential when considering the changes in charge and radius.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial assumption that the radius would double. There is a clear disagreement on the implications of combining the droplets and how to correctly calculate the resulting potential.

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Limitations include the assumptions made about the shapes of the droplets and the simplifications in the calculations regarding charge distribution and potential. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps leading to the final potential expression.

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[SOLVED] potential of two surfaces coming together

lets say we have two water droplets(assume them to be spherical shape) with a each having charge q and each has the potential at its surface as kq/r.What is the potential if the two water droplets combine?
I thought tht the radius and charge wud double...and so the potential wud double...but its wrong.Why?Thx in advance
 
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Radius will not double. The correct factor is the cube root of 2. Why do you think the radius will double?
 
why is it cube root of two?I thought the radius will double because they come together...
 
No, the volume will double if you put them together. Can you work it out now?
 
nope still can figure it out..how can I get the new radius from the doubling of the volume and the charge??
 
The radius has nothing to do with the charge. Initially you have two spherical droplets of radius r. They each have volume [tex]k r^3[/tex]. Put together they have total volume [tex]2kr^3[/tex]. Now what would the radius of a sphere have to be if its volume is [tex]2kr^3[/tex]? Call the radius of the combined sphere [tex]r_{1}[/tex]. Write the expression for its volume interms of [tex]r_{1}[/tex]. Equate that to [tex]2kr^3[/tex].
 
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ohhh..I c.So r is radius of the original drop and r1 is the radius of the new combined drop.
So equating gives kr^3=2kr1^3 which gives r1=2^(1/3)r
then substituting in the original eqtn gives 2kq/{[2^(1/3)]r}...then u get 2^(2/3) not 2^(1/3)...so wht did I do wrong this time?thank you
 
[tex]2^{1/3}[/tex] is the factor by which the radius changes. The potential is proportional to the charge, and inversely proportional to the radius. So if the charge is doubled, and the radius is increased by a factor of [tex]2^{1/3}[/tex], the potential will increase by a factor of [tex]2^{2/3}[/tex].
 
ohk thank you so much...you r a genius!
 

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