Power Comparison: 5 Parts Air v 800 PSI w/ Diesel

In summary: So the volume of air drawn in will be three times as much for Engine 2. This means that Engine 2 will produce three times as much power.
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What is better for power? 5 parts air at 400 psi compression 10 inch bore by 30 inch stroke compared to 800 psi compression with 1 part air with 10 inch bore with 10 inch stroke? Same air fuel ratio in both With diesel? Which will be more power and which will be more efficient? And why?
 
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Compression ratio:
[tex]r = \left(\frac{P}{P_0}\right)^\frac{1}{1.4}[/tex]
where [itex]P_0[/itex] = 14.7 psi.

Engine 1 ([itex]P[/itex] = 400 psi): [itex]r = 10.59[/itex].
Engine 2 ([itex]P[/itex] = 800 psi): [itex]r = 17.37[/itex].

Diesel cycle thermal efficiency:

bfe6abacc1fdef67d1fc3dfcc72448eb.png


If we assume [itex]\alpha = 2[/itex] (cut-off ratio) and [itex]\gamma= 1.4[/itex], then:
[tex]\eta_{th} = 1 - \frac{1.17}{r^{0.4}}[/tex]
Engine 1: [itex]\eta_{th} = 0.544[/itex].
Engine 2: [itex]\eta_{th} = 0.626[/itex].

Engine 2 is more efficient.

Air volume per cycle (at atmospheric pressure):
[Here, I'm not sure what you mean by «5 parts air» and «1 part air»; I'm assuming you mean one engine's rpm is 5X faster than the other one or one has 5 cylinders and the other one has 1 cylinder]
[tex]V \propto ND^2S[/tex]
and the energy per cycle is:
[tex]E \propto \eta_{th}V[/tex]
[tex]\frac{E_1}{E_2} = \frac{\left(\eta_{th}ND^2S\right)_1}{\left(\eta_{th}ND^2S\right)_2} = \frac{0.544 \times 5 \times 10^2 \times 30}{0.626 \times 1 \times 10^2 \times 10} = 13[/tex]
Engine 1 should produce 13 times more power than engine 2.
 
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Compression ratio:
[tex]r = \left(\frac{P}{P_0}\right)^\frac{1}{1.4}[/tex]
where [itex]P_0[/itex] = 14.7 psi.

Engine 1 ([itex]P[/itex] = 400 psi): [itex]r = 10.59[/itex].
Engine 2 ([itex]P[/itex] = 800 psi): [itex]r = 17.37[/itex].

Diesel cycle thermal efficiency:

bfe6abacc1fdef67d1fc3dfcc72448eb.png


If we assume [itex]\alpha = 2[/itex] (cut-off ratio) and [itex]\gamma= 1.4[/itex], then:
[tex]\eta_{th} = 1 - \frac{1.17}{r^{0.4}}[/tex]
Engine 1: [itex]\eta_{th} = 0.544[/itex].
Engine 2: [itex]\eta_{th} = 0.626[/itex].

Engine 2 is more efficient.

Air volume per cycle (at atmospheric pressure):
[Here, I'm not sure what you mean by «5 parts air» and «1 part air»; I'm assuming you mean one engine's rpm is 5X faster than the other one or one has 5 cylinders and the other one has 1 cylinder]
[tex]V \propto ND^2S[/tex]
and the energy per cycle is:
[tex]E \propto \eta_{th}V[/tex]
[tex]\frac{E_1}{E_2} = \frac{\left(\eta_{th}ND^2S\right)_1}{\left(\eta_{th}ND^2S\right)_2} = \frac{0.544 \times 5 \times 10^2 \times 30}{0.626 \times 1 \times 10^2 \times 10} = 13[/tex]
Engine 1 should produce 13 times more power than engine 2.
By parts of air i mean volume of air.
 
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I still don't understand what you mean with that.. Volume has specific units, so giving us "parts of air" when you also mention bore, stroke, and compression pressure is all a bit confusing.
 
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The volume of air drawn in is usually roughly equal to the displacement of the engine. Engine 2 has three times the displacement of Engine 1.
 

Related to Power Comparison: 5 Parts Air v 800 PSI w/ Diesel

1. What is the purpose of comparing power between air and diesel at 800 PSI?

The purpose of this comparison is to determine which source of power is more efficient and effective at generating energy at high pressure levels.

2. How was the power comparison conducted?

The power comparison was conducted by measuring the amount of energy produced by both air and diesel at 800 PSI using specific instruments and calculations.

3. What were the results of the power comparison?

The results showed that diesel generated significantly more energy at 800 PSI compared to air.

4. What factors may have influenced the results of the power comparison?

Some factors that may have influenced the results include the type and quality of the diesel and air used, the efficiency of the equipment used, and external environmental conditions.

5. How can this power comparison be applied in real-world scenarios?

This power comparison can be useful in industries that require high levels of power, such as in manufacturing or transportation, to determine the most efficient and cost-effective source of power to use.

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