Power Factor Correction: Capacitor Bank

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around power factor correction, specifically the implications of using capacitor banks in systems with varying loads, such as motors. Participants explore the nature of power factor penalties imposed by utilities, the effects of leading versus lagging power factors, and the operational challenges associated with capacitor banks.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether utilities penalize for both lagging and leading power factors or only for lagging ones.
  • Concerns are raised about the effects of having a leading power factor when motors are idle and capacitors remain online, including potential issues with capacitor life and local system stability.
  • One participant explains that while leading power factor can cause local stability issues, they have not heard of utilities penalizing for excessive capacitance directly.
  • Another participant shares an anecdote about a friend who faced increased charges for low power factor despite installing capacitors, which worsened the situation due to leftover capacitors from previous owners.
  • There is a discussion about the terminology used to describe reactive power, with some preferring to use positive and negative signs versus leading and lagging terms.
  • Participants express confusion over the signs associated with power factor and reactive power, noting that different workplaces may use different conventions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether utilities penalize for leading power factors and the implications of having a leading power factor in practice. There is no consensus on the terminology used to describe reactive power, indicating a lack of agreement on this aspect.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of power factor correction and the potential for confusion regarding the signs used in different contexts, which may depend on regional practices or personal experiences.

  • #31
Hesch said:
It can be mechanically loaded at the same time. The generator at your utility is (negative) mechanically loaded while producing kVAr's.

Thanks! I found a great article describing the use of a synchronous motor in a process plant here in case it helps anyone else:

https://www.site.uottawa.ca/~rhabash/project-synversusinduction.pdf
 
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  • #32
Hesch said:
It can be mechanically loaded at the same time. The generator at your utility is (negative) mechanically loaded while producing kVAr's.

Out of curiosity, are there practical systems that have a natural leading power factor & hence cannot be corrected by a capacitor bank?
 
  • #33
rollingstein said:
Out of curiosity, are there practical systems that have a natural leading power factor & hence cannot be corrected by a capacitor bank?

Power transmission lines, especially underground power cables. We correct those with shunt reactors.
 

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