Power percentage, square wave, Fourier series

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the percentage of power contained in the first three harmonics of a square waveform, specifically focusing on the contributions from the DC component and odd harmonics. Participants explore the implications of the duty cycle and the relationship between voltage and power in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the percentage of power from the first three harmonics as 84.9% using the formula for odd harmonics, but questions the discrepancy with provided multiple choice answers.
  • Another participant suggests that the DC component might be 0.5 and inquires how this affects the calculations.
  • A participant confirms that the zero harmonic is the DC component and states that even harmonics contribute 0, while odd harmonics contribute values of 2/(pi*n).
  • One participant proposes a formula for calculating the power percentage based on the square of the voltage components.
  • Another participant suggests a different approach to the calculation, proposing a formula that includes the squares of the contributions from the first three odd harmonics and compares it to the total power from additional harmonics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct method for calculating the percentage of power, with no consensus reached on the final answer or the correct approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the relationship between voltage and power, and how the DC component influences their calculations. There are also unresolved questions regarding the total power calculation and the contributions of additional harmonics.

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Homework Statement



What is the percentage of power (out of the total power) contained up to the third harmonic (power in DC component, a1 , a-1 , a2 , a-2 , a3 , a-3 ) of the square waveform shown above? (the duty cycle = D = τ/T0= 0.5)

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The Attempt at a Solution



Hey all,
The following question refers to the attached diagram. I thought the question was simple enough due to the amplitude being 1, and the value of D being 0.5.

The simplified formula I calculated for the answer is 2/(k*pi) for odd harmonics (as even values of k result in a value of 0)

-However when adding 2/pi and 2/(3*pi) i get 0.8488 and hence 84.9%

However the multiple choice answers are 96.7, 95, 72.5 and 73.3%

I am not sure whether this is a simple mistake or a large misunderstanding of the theory.

Any help would be much appreciated!
 

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Jd303 said:

Homework Statement



What is the percentage of power (out of the total power) contained up to the third harmonic (power in DC component, a1 , a-1 , a2 , a-2 , a3 , a-3 ) of the square waveform shown above? (the duty cycle = D = τ/T0= 0.5)

Homework Equations




The Attempt at a Solution



Hey all,
The following question refers to the attached diagram. I thought the question was simple enough due to the amplitude being 1, and the value of D being 0.5.

The simplified formula I calculated for the answer is 2/(k*pi) for odd harmonics (as even values of k result in a value of 0)

-However when adding 2/pi and 2/(3*pi) i get 0.8488 and hence 84.9%

However the multiple choice answers are 96.7, 95, 72.5 and 73.3%

I am not sure whether this is a simple mistake or a large misunderstanding of the theory.

Any help would be much appreciated!

The waveform looks like it also has a DC component...?
 
Sorry only just starting out this topic, would the DC component be 0.5? How does this component chang emy calculations?
 
BTW, that article was the first hit on the list of my Google search for square wave harmonics amplitude. :smile:
 
Yes I have actually looked at that page, but it just isn't clicking, here is my understanding.
-The zero harmonic is the DC component and hence 0.5
-Even harmonics have a value of 0
-Odd harmonics have a value of 2/(pi*n)
-Total amplitude is 1
-So percentage power should be ((2/pi) + 2/(3*pi))/1 = 0.8488
 
Jd303 said:
Yes I have actually looked at that page, but it just isn't clicking, here is my understanding.
-The zero harmonic is the DC component and hence 0.5
-Even harmonics have a value of 0
-Odd harmonics have a value of 2/(pi*n)
-Total amplitude is 1
-So percentage power should be ((2/pi) + 2/(3*pi))/1 = 0.8488

That page is listing voltage component values. How is the power related to the voltage?
 
P = (V^2)/R
Hence power percentage would be 0.8488^2.!
Hopefully I have finally gotten that one right! Thanks for your persistence with me
 
:smile:
 
  • #10
i think its
(2/pi)^2 + (2/3pi)^2
divided by
(2/pi)^2 + (2/3pi)^2 +(2/5pi)^2 + (2/7pi)^2

which gives you 95%
 

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