Circuit Analysis-Converting a square wave to a sine wave

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the challenge of designing a circuit to convert a square wave into a sine wave using appropriate resistor and capacitor values. Participants explore the theoretical and practical aspects of this conversion, including the application of Fourier series and the concept of low-pass filters.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses skepticism about the feasibility of accurately producing a sine wave from a square wave using a simple circuit, suggesting that the best possible outcome is desired.
  • Another participant suggests viewing the circuit as a low-pass filter and mentions the importance of determining the "cut-off" frequency.
  • A later reply clarifies that the cut-off frequency is where significant attenuation begins, which is crucial for filtering harmonics.
  • One participant agrees that a simple first-order low-pass filter cannot convert a square wave into a sine wave and emphasizes the need to attenuate the third harmonic while preserving the first harmonic.
  • It is noted that in practice, three cascaded stages of filtering are often considered sufficient for this type of conversion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that a simple first-order low-pass filter is insufficient for accurately converting a square wave to a sine wave. However, there are multiple views on the specifics of how to achieve the best possible outcome, particularly regarding the cut-off frequency and the number of filtering stages required.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for a deeper understanding of concepts like resonance and Fourier series, which may affect their ability to fully grasp the circuit design and analysis. There is also a recognition of the limitations of the proposed circuit in achieving the desired sine wave output.

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Homework Statement


For an upcoming lab I've been asked to build a circuit to convert a square wave (vi(t))e into a sine wave (v0(t)) by selecting appropriate resistor/capacitor values for the circuit below (from what I know, it's impossible to produce an accurate sine wave with just this, I assume that I just have to do the best I can). Searching around online has only given me some qualitative explanations so I'm looking for a circuit analysis based explanation on how this is supposed to work.
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$$v_i(t)= (-1)^n), nT_0<t\leq(n+1)T_0, n=...-2,-1,0,1,2..., T_0=\frac{1}{100}secs$$

Homework Equations


$$a_0=\frac{1}{T}\int_{0}^{T}f(t)dt$$
$$a_n=\frac{2}{T}\int_{0}^{T}cos(nw_0t)f(t)dt$$
$$b_n=\frac{2}{T}\int_{0}^{T}sin(nw_0t)f(t)dt$$
$$V=IZ$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I started by calculating the Fourier series, which I believe works out to be $$-\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{8}{(2k-1)\pi}sin(\pi (2k-1)t)$$

Then I attempted to get an equation for v0(t) in terms of vi(t). Simplifying the resistor and capacitor in parallel then applying voltage division gave:

$$v_0(t)=\frac{R_2}{R_1+R_2+jR_1R_2\pi nC}v_i(t)$$

May have made a mistake in there somewhere but either way from this point on I don't have a clue on how to proceed, I thought about making the denominator real but I'm not seeing how that would help. Any tips will be appreciated, thanks!
 
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Hi Forcefedglas. :welcome:

You can look at it as a low-pass filter, and locate its "cut-off" where you wish.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Hi Forcefedglas. :welcome:

You can look at it as a low-pass filter, and locate its "cut-off" where you wish.

Haven't learned about low pass filters yet but I'll go read up on it now. What do you mean by cut-off?

EDIT: Ah I see it's to do with resonance which we get to in a few weeks...My course was recently restructured to teach Fourier series at the start instead of at the end but I guess the lab questions didn't change
 
Cut-off is the frequency at which the filter starts to cause significant attenuation.
 
Forcefedglas said:

Homework Statement


For an upcoming lab I've been asked to build a circuit to convert a square wave (vi(t))e into a sine wave (v0(t)) by selecting appropriate resistor/capacitor values for the circuit below (from what I know, it's impossible to produce an accurate sine wave with just this, I assume that I just have to do the best I can).
You are right. With this simple first-order lowpass it is not possible to convert squarewave into a sinewave.
Your goal should be to attenuate the 3rd harmonic as much as possible (the 2nd harmonic does not exist in a poor squarewave) without attenuation the first harmonic too much. That means: The "cut-off frequency" must be located somewhere between the first and the third harmonic.
This cut-off frequency ωo=2πfo is the inverse of the time constant of the circuit.
 
Just as a FYI.
In practice, three cascaded stages are 'generally assumed' to be sufficient.
 

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