Power Required for Rotating Vessel

In summary, the conversation discusses the power calculation for a rotating vessel used for processing material. The known quantities include the vessel's mass, dimensions, weight of material, and drive arrangement. The methodology for calculating the required torque and motor horsepower is outlined, but the possibility of slip on the contact surfaces is raised as a potential factor to consider. The need for verification and any additional help is also mentioned.
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Power Calculation for Rotating Vessel

I need help, please.

I have an application with a rotating cylinder in which material is tumbled for processing purposes. The following quantities are known although I have need of generic formulas in the future as these are variables between system applications.

Known Quantities:
Vessel mass (empty): 120,000 lbs.
Inside diameter: 11’-9”
Outside diameter: 11’-10”
Weight of material: 70,000 tons based on 13 lbs/ft3 bulk material density
Drive arrangement: 1800 rpm electric motor coupled to gear reducer driving steel wheel, 24” in diameter.
Number of drives: (4) each. The (4) steel wheels drive and cradle the vessel through (2) circumferentially mounted, 14’-1” diameter driven rings. Please refer to sketch.
Time to accelerate: approx. 5 seconds
Full speed rpm: 6 rpm

My Methodology:

1. Calculate moment of inertia I of vessel using:

m•(di2 + do2)/8

2. Calculate average angular α acceleration using:

6 rpm • 2•π/(60 sec/min•5 sec) = 0.126 rad/sec2


3. Calculate total torque required to accelerate from:

T=I•α

4. Calculate torque required from gear reducer output
5. Determine torque input to the gear reducer
6. Determine motor HP rating from the relationship:

T•rpm/5252

Conclusion:

Based on my calculations, each motor will need to develop approx. 399 lb-ft of torque to accelerate the vessel. I realize that the motor could be sized based on breakdown torque, not using the above simple HP=T•rpm/5252 relationship which yields approx. 137 HP to be developed by each motor. If breakdown torque is approximately 230% of full speed torque, (4) 60 HP motors would suffice. I just need verification that my methodology is valid and that my figures are reasonable. Also, I realize the above does account for the material to be processed in the vessel. Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.
 

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slip consideration

in your calculation, you are not taking into account the friction between the contact surfaces of rollers and vessel. Slip may cccur on contact surface. So, you must look into that part also because that will ultimately affect your power requirement.
 
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it is important to use a systematic approach when calculating the power required for a rotating vessel. Your methodology appears to be well thought out and valid. However, there are a few factors that may affect the accuracy of your calculations.

Firstly, the material inside the vessel will also contribute to the moment of inertia and torque required for rotation. This should be taken into consideration when calculating the total torque required. Additionally, the friction between the material and the vessel walls may also impact the power required for rotation.

Furthermore, it is important to consider the safety factor when selecting the motor size. It is generally recommended to oversize the motor to accommodate any unexpected variations in the system or material properties.

In terms of your figures, they seem reasonable but it would be beneficial to perform a validation test to ensure the accuracy of your calculations. This could involve measuring the actual torque and power required during the acceleration process and comparing it to your calculated values.

Overall, your methodology is a good starting point for calculating the power required for a rotating vessel. However, it is important to consider all factors and perform validation tests to ensure the accuracy of your calculations. I hope this helps!
 

1. What is the definition of "power required for rotating vessel"?

The power required for rotating vessel refers to the amount of energy needed to keep a vessel rotating at a constant speed.

2. How is the power required for rotating vessel calculated?

The power required for rotating vessel can be calculated using the equation P = Tω, where P is power, T is torque, and ω is angular velocity.

3. What factors affect the power required for rotating vessel?

The power required for rotating vessel is affected by factors such as the size and weight of the vessel, the speed at which it is rotating, and any external forces acting on the vessel.

4. Why is it important to know the power required for rotating vessel?

Knowing the power required for rotating vessel is important for designing and operating vessels, as it helps ensure that the vessel has enough power to maintain its desired rotation speed and perform its intended functions.

5. How can the power required for rotating vessel be optimized?

The power required for rotating vessel can be optimized by reducing factors such as weight and external forces, as well as by utilizing efficient propulsion systems and properly maintaining the vessel's equipment.

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