Power Supply for 1mw Green Laser

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The discussion revolves around powering a 1mW green laser using a USB port, specifically addressing the voltage requirements and potential methods for voltage regulation. Participants explore various electrical components and configurations to achieve the desired 3V output from the standard 5V USB supply.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about using a USB port to power a 1mW green laser, questioning whether software could adjust the voltage or if a resistor is needed.
  • Another participant suggests that software to modify USB voltage is unlikely due to the lack of demand and the need for specialized hardware.
  • Some participants propose using a resistor to step down the voltage, with one suggesting a 900-ohm resistor based on calculations.
  • There is a suggestion to use zener diodes in series as an alternative method for voltage regulation.
  • Several participants engage in calculations related to Ohm's Law to determine the appropriate resistor values, with varying results and some expressions of uncertainty about their calculations.
  • One participant mentions the limitations of USB power supply, including the need for enumeration to draw more than 100mA.
  • A later reply shares a personal experience of successfully powering the laser by directly connecting it to a USB wire from an old mouse, noting the potential longevity due to a built-in power regulator in the laser.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best method to power the laser and the implications of USB power limitations. There is no consensus on the optimal approach or the calculations presented, with some participants correcting or questioning earlier claims.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various electrical components and configurations, but there are unresolved calculations and assumptions regarding current draw and voltage requirements. The discussion includes multiple approaches without clear resolution on the best method.

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Hi I know little about this but I am wanting to wire up my 1mw green laser to my usb port to use it as a power supply it is 3 volts I'm wondering is there a program you can use to change the 5 volt output to 3 volts or would I need to use a resister in the wiring ?
 
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do you know ohms law?
 
I've never heard software which can modify USB voltage, not that it would be impossible, just no demand for it really, and most likely it would have to drive a specially made hardware interface which is not present in most standard computers.
USB devices are designed to operate at 5v (+/- .5v)because that's part of the USB specification.
Yes you could make a very simple resistor based device to step down the voltage,
A slightly more complicated but more efficient voltage reduction device could use a specialised transistor-like device and a few other components,
This for example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LM317

Here's another one more specifically intended for the 3vdc output you want.
http://ie.farnell.com/stmicroelectronics/l78l33acz/ic-v-reg-3-3v/dp/1467768

Edit: scratch that above one, it needs 8V minimum input , but devices like that are common and cheap.
A bit of googling should be able find one best suitable for your particular project.
 
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Sure. Why not simply two zener diodes in series ?
 
:eek:yes all you need is a resistor

USB 1.x/2.0 standard pinout
Pin Name Wire color Description
1 VBUS Red (or orange) +5 V
2 D− White (or gold) Data−
3 D+ Green Data+
4 GND Black (or blue) Ground

Single-LED-Resistor-Circuit.jpg


you'll need a 900 ohm resistor, a quick look at the available resistors closest to this are:
http://web.mit.edu/2.744/www/Project/Assignments/conceptRefinement/herdd/dmass/images/resistor_code.jpg
910 ohm, which is fine.

edit: or 91 ohm, someone check this, seems I'm borderline retarded with math now for some reason:eek:
 
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thankz said:
do you know ohms law?
Something like 2 V / 1/3 mA = 6 kΩ :rolleyes: ?

The 1/3 mA from (1 mW / 3 V )
 
ohms-watts_law.jpg

V squared / watts = R
to double check
R / 3v = 30.333ma
30.333ma * 3v = 91ohms
for laser power .030333amps(remember si units) * 3v = watts = 0.090999

now I feel stupid, I misplacing 0 or I'm not subtracting the 2 from 5 but I know from doing this many times that 30ma is the right current from experience. boy do I feel dumb:mad: something is wrong right now with my brain as it is missing placeholders so I did it on paper with the voltage drop and req current and got 66 ohms. no worrys it's only temporaryo_O but still this should be second nature to me.

btw, I got the whole town trying to steal and none knows or can do ohms law!:biggrin:
 
Wheel of fortune is way too complicated. Stick to V = I * R and P = V * I. All the others follow with simple math. :smile:
 
Thanks guys
 
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Not sure about all that was posted above.

USB supply is not adjustable.

USB supply is 5V @ 100ma, but it might not work of you don't enumerate. Hubs will generally work, but some pc ports will shut down if you draw current without enumerating. Also, the max allowable draw is 100ma unless you enumerate and request 500ma and the host gives you permission.

When you say your laser runs off 3v, are you saying a 3V battery? Or, 2 1.5V batteries? If that is the case you need a regulator to drop the voltage to 3V, but 100ma may not be enough. Or is it something like this?
http://thelaserguy.stores.yahoo.net/er651mwreddi.html which is a 1mW red laser that requires 60ma @ 3V
http://www.z-bolt.com/greenlasermodules.com/diodespecs/DPSS-1M.pdf is a green one that requires "<300ma" @ 3V

Do you have a part number?
 
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I had a old mouse just chopped the wire of it and wired it straight to the laser and its working.

No idea how long it will last before it burns out but I read that lasers have a built in power regulator so might last just as long as it would with batteries

Now I can crack on with my double slit experiments without having to change batteries every 2 mins =)
 
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meBigGuy said:
Also, the max allowable draw is 100ma unless you enumerate and request 500ma and the host gives you permission.

My usb ports say there 500ma each port either way it works =)
 

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