Predict sign of partial derivatives

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves understanding the behavior of temperature as a function of longitude, latitude, and time in the Northern Hemisphere, specifically in relation to the conditions in Honolulu. The original poster seeks to predict the signs of the partial derivatives of temperature with respect to these variables based on the given scenario of wind patterns.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of temperature changes with respect to variations in longitude and latitude, questioning whether the partial derivatives would be positive or negative. There is an exploration of how the direction of wind affects temperature and how to interpret the signs of the derivatives.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between temperature and the variables, noting that as latitude increases, temperature tends to decrease. Others have raised questions about the interpretation of longitude and its effect on temperature, indicating a productive exploration of the topic without reaching a consensus.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on understanding the dynamics of temperature changes in relation to geographic coordinates and time, with participants noting the importance of clarifying assumptions about the direction of longitude and its implications for temperature.

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Homework Statement


The temperature T at a location in the Northern Hemisphere depends on the longitude x, latitude y, and time t so we can write T=f(x,y,z); time is measured in hours from the beginning of January.

Honolulu has longitude 158 degrees W, and latitude 21 degrees N. Suppose that at 9:00 AM on January 1, the wind is blowing hot air to the northeast, so the air to the west and south is warm and the air to the north and east is cooler. Would you expect fx(158, 121,9), fy(158, 121,9), and ft(158, 121,9) to be positive or negative? Explain.

Homework Equations


dT/dx = change in temperature as longitude varies
dT/dy = change in temperature as latitude varies
dT/dt = change in temperature as time varies

The Attempt at a Solution


As longitude varies, the temperature in the north would get cooler, so would it be a negative partial derivative?

I'm not sure how to approach this.
 
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fk378 said:

Homework Equations


dT/dx = change in temperature as longitude varies
dT/dy = change in temperature as latitude varies
dT/dt = change in temperature as time varies



The Attempt at a Solution


As longitude varies, the temperature in the north would get cooler, so would it be a negative partial derivative?

There is no special trick to partial derivatives: they still express rates of change of a function with respect to a change in an independent variable -- there is just more than one variable now.

The value of (North) latitude is increasing as you go north, while the temperature is falling. So you are correct that dT/dy < 0 . (I presume you meant 'latitude' in your question, since you mentioned the temperature 'in the north'.)

Be careful about dT/dx: what longitude is being used and which way does it increase? As for dT/dt, you need to consider how the air is moving and what will happen to the temperature at Honolulu as time passes...
 
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try to draw a graph of temperature

if
keeping y and z constant, and x goes from a (less positive x) to b (more positive x), and Temperature decreases, then dT/dx is?
 
Crucial point is what dynamicsolo implied: x increases to the WEST.
 

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