Preference of Angular frequency over frequency for sinusoidal graphs

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The discussion revolves around the preference for angular frequency (\(\omega\)) over frequency (\(\nu\)) in the context of sinusoidal graphs, particularly in relation to the mathematical simplicity and representation of oscillatory motion. Participants explore the implications of using radians versus cycles in calculations and the impact on the equations of motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the preference for \(\omega\) over \(\nu\) and seeks clarification on whether this choice simplifies calculations or serves another purpose.
  • Another participant argues that using radians (as in \(\omega\)) makes mathematical operations easier by eliminating extra factors of \(2\pi\) that would otherwise complicate the calculations.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that \(\nu\) represents complete cycles per unit time while \(\omega\) represents radians per unit time, emphasizing that \(\omega\) avoids repeated use of \(2\pi\) in subsequent calculations.
  • Examples are provided to illustrate how using \(\omega\) leads to simpler expressions for velocity and acceleration without the need for \(2\pi\).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the preference for \(\omega\) versus \(\nu\), with some supporting the use of \(\omega\) for its mathematical convenience, while others seem to favor \(\nu\) based on the book's statement. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall preference.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific equations and definitions, but there is no consensus on the implications of using one notation over the other. The discussion highlights the dependence on context and the potential for confusion regarding the definitions of frequency and angular frequency.

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Quote from 'The Physics of Vibrations and Waves by H.J.Pain': "However when we solve the equation of motion we shall find that the behaviour of x with time has a sinusoidal or cosinusoidal dependence, and it will prove more appropriate to consider not \nu, but the angular frequency \omega = 2\pi\nu so that the..."
My question is, why are we prefering \omega over \nu just because of the fact that the graph will be sinusoidal/cosinusoidal? Does it make the calculations somehow easy, or has it got some other purpose?
 
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The math works out MUCH easier if the trig functions are measured in radians. Otherwise, there are far too many factors of ##2\pi## to keep track of.
 
so, according to you, we prefer \nu over \omega. O.o but the book says that we prefer \omega over \nu. \omega contains 2\pi
 
The way I interpret your notation, ##\nu## means the number of complete cycles of the oscillation per unit time, and ##\omega## means the number of radians per unit time.

The book has used ##2\pi## once in its definition or explanation of what ##\omega## is. You won't find ##2\pi## again when you use ##\omega##.

For example if the displacement of something is ##A \cos \omega t##, its velocity is ##-A\omega \sin \omega t## and its acceleration is ##-A\omega^2 \cos \omega t##. No factors of ##2\pi##.

If you have a mass m on a spring of stiffness, the oscillation frequency is ##\omega = \sqrt{k/m}##. For a simple pendulum, ##\omega = \sqrt{g/l}##. Again, no factors of ##2\pi##.
 
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ah, i see... Thanks a lot for the help, sir ^_^
 

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