Pressure Required for Fireman to Send Water 12m High | Physics Problem

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To send water 12 meters high, a fireman needs to consider both the pressure required to lift the water and atmospheric pressure. The calculation shows that approximately 1.17 atm is needed for the water elevation, but this does not account for the atmospheric pressure. Therefore, the total pressure required is 2.2 atm, which includes the atmospheric pressure of 1 atm. A general rule of thumb indicates that about 1 atm is needed to elevate water approximately 10 meters. The correct approach is to use the equation P = hdg and add atmospheric pressure to the calculated pressure difference.
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My daughter, who attends the italian equivalent of US K9, asked me some advice about a physics hydrostatic problem.

> Which pressure (in atmospheres) a fireman must use to send water at 12
> meters height.

I tried to use the definition 76 cm of mercury is 1 atm and I made the proportion between water and mercury densities

Namely

if with a density of 13.5
atmosferic pressure raises Hg to 0.76 m then the pressure of 1 atm raises water to 13.5\times 0.76 m that is 10.26m.

Thus to arrive to 12m the pressure required is 12/10.26=1.17 atm

But the book says 2.2atm

Can you, please, explain what I did wrong?

Thanks in advance
 
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Raffaele said:
<Moderator's note: Moved from a technical forum and thus no template.>

My daughter, who attends the italian equivalent of US K9, asked me some advice about a physics hydrostatic problem.

> Which pressure (in atmospheres) a fireman must use to send water at 12
> meters height.

I tried to use the definition 76 cm of mercury is 1 atm and I made the proportion between water and mercury densities

Namely

if with a density of 13.5
atmosferic pressure raises Hg to 0.76 m then the pressure of 1 atm raises water to 13.5\times 0.76 m that is 10.26m.

Thus to arrive to 12m the pressure required is 12/10.26=1.17 atm

But the book says 2.2atm

Can you, please, explain what I did wrong?

Thanks in advance

Hi,

the answer is 2,2 because you must add the atmospheric pressure (1 atm) to the needed ΔP that you have already calculated.

Also, have in mind that water needs approximately 1 atm ΔP in order to be elevated at 10 m height ( this is a rule of thumb).
 
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The equation to use is

P=hdg

Where h is height
d is the density
g is acceleration due to gravity.

Remembering to add for atmospheric pressure as Raffaele mentioned.
 
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