Principles of Pseudo perpetual motion

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The discussion centers on the principles of pseudo perpetual motion (PPM) devices, emphasizing the necessity of a continuously changing event horizon to achieve such motion. Participants explore the role of magnetic fields and their potential to create motion without external energy input, suggesting that manipulating magnetic attraction and distance could be key. The conversation also touches on the concept of space charge and space current, proposing that these properties of space might contribute to the existence of electromagnetic fields. Additionally, the limitations of existing PPM concepts are acknowledged, particularly the inevitability of equilibrium in systems that experience friction or other forms of energy loss. Overall, the thread delves into theoretical ideas about energy generation and the nature of magnetic fields in relation to space-time.
  • #31
Antonio Lao said, 'But it is also true that magnetic field can exist only if there is some charges moving (current density). But in "empty" space, there is no charge and no current yet there is electromagnetic field. Since there must be some sort of "charge" or "current" in vacuum in order for the EM field to exist, these "charge" and "current" must be some kind of properties of space itself. For purposes of distinction, we can call them "space charge" and "space current." '

Nonsense! The laws of classical electricity and magnetism don't require there to be charges or currents wherever there is a field. That's the whole idea of the field; it exists in space even where there is no charge. The EM laws just say that if there is a field somewhere, there must be charges somewhere.
 
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  • #32
jdavel said:
The laws of classical electricity and magnetism don't require there to be charges or currents wherever there is a field.

The object of modern nonclassical quantum field theory (QFT) is to quantize the field. This is done. QFT gives us the quantum of each fundamental force as the photon, W, Z, gluon, and graviton. The W's particles are the only ones with electric charge. This is a mystery.

One way to get around this is by proposing the existence of "space charge" and its movement is called "space current." Further, these new ideas can also give plausible explanation concerning the origin of mass which can then clarify the concept of Higgs boson and make a connection to the graviton. These ideas can also explain the concept of dark matter and dak energy and locate the site of the long lost antigravity force.
 
  • #33
jdavel said:
The laws of classical electricity and magnetism don't require there to be charges or currents wherever there is a field. That's the whole idea of the field; it exists in space even where there is no charge. The EM laws just say that if there is a field somewhere, there must be charges somewhere.
I think this explanation is clear, accurate, and useful.
 

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