Probability of current flow through circuit

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The discussion focuses on calculating the probability of current flow through a circuit with five relays, where the probabilities of each relay closing are given as p_1 = 0.9, p_2 = 0.6, p_3 = 0.1, p_4 = 0.7, and p_5 = 0.2. Participants emphasize the use of the inclusion-exclusion principle to determine the probability of current flow, specifically P(A ∪ B ∪ C ∪ D). A suggested approach involves using conditional probabilities to simplify the calculation of P(C), the event of current flowing, based on the states of the relays.

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The probability of the closing of the ith relay in the circuits shown is given by p_i. Let p_1 = 0.9, p_2 = 0.6, p_3 = 0.1, p_4 = 0.7, p_5 = 0.2. If all relays function independently. what is the probability that a current flows between A and B for the respective circuits?

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I am working on the circuit in part B. I broke down the problem into 4 events in which the current could flow through the circuit. I labeled them A, B, C and D. I know that the problem is just P(AUBUCUD), but I do not know how to do a union for 4 events. Can someone please help?
 
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LCKurtz said:
You need the inclusion-exclusion principle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclusion-exclusion_principle

and scroll down the "In Probability" section.

- That is what I tried using actually, but I guess I'm not quite sure how to set up the formula once you get past 3 events.
 
Try just using a chain of conditional probabilities. Let:
C = event that current flows
s1 = event switch 1 is closed
s2 = event switch 2 is closed etc.

So you could start like this:

P(C) = P(C|s1)P(s1) + P(C|s2)P(s2) = P(C|s1)(.9) + P(C|s2)(.6)

Now to calculate P(C|s1) condition it on s3 and s4 and fill in what you know. Keep going like that.
 

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