Probability of L Consecutive Heads in N Coin Tosses

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of obtaining exactly L consecutive heads (or tails) in N independent coin tosses. A participant provides an example with N=3 and L=2, concluding that the probability P(2,3) is 1/4 based on valid combinations. There is mention of using generating functions and references to probability texts for deeper understanding, but confusion persists regarding the formulas presented. Participants express uncertainty about the correctness of proposed formulas for calculating these probabilities, leading to a request for clarification on whether a definitive formula exists. The conversation highlights the complexity of determining probabilities for specific runs in coin toss scenarios.
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What is the probability that a run of exactly L consecutive heads (or tails) appears in N independent tosses of a coin?

Please help me with this one... I 've searched everywhere but I can't find a general answer, for example P(L,N) = ...
 
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2^{-n}
 
fatra2 said:
2^{-n}

That's not correct.

Let's suppose we toss a coin 3 times (N = 3) and we want a run of exactly 2 heads (L = 2). Then the combinations that include runs of HH are only two: THH and HHT
The total combinations are 2N=3=8

So, P(2,3) = 2/8 = 1/4

Your answer gives 2-N= 1/8
 
Hi there,

I am sorry. I misunderstood your question. I thought you asked what is the probably of having N consecutive heads, on N toss.

I'll look into it a bit deeper, and give you a more precise answer.

Cheers
 
fatra2 said:
Hi there,

I am sorry. I misunderstood your question. I thought you asked what is the probably of having N consecutive heads, on N toss.

I'll look into it a bit deeper, and give you a more precise answer.

Cheers

Thank you
 
You can look in probability texts for discussions of "runs". There is other information here

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Run.html

- with a "formula" that gives probabilities as coefficients from a particular generating function.
 
statdad said:
You can look in probability texts for discussions of "runs". There is other information here

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Run.html

- with a "formula" that gives probabilities as coefficients from a particular generating function.

Well, I 've already seen that but I don't understand how these formulas work. Could you explain a little bit more if you can understand them?
 
Hi , i think this is the answer P(n,l) = C^{l}_{n} / 2^{n}
 
vlad1234 said:
Hi , i think this is the answer P(n,l) = C^{l}_{n} / 2^{n}


Thank you for your answer but what exactly is C?
 
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Oh , i made a mistake , sorry. Let me fix it . C^{l}_{n} = \left(^{l}_{n}\right)
 
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HOpe I'm not wrong this time .

P ( N , L ) =
\left\{2/2^{N} , if N = L + 1

\left\{( 2^{ N-L+1} + 2^{N-L-2} + 2 ) / 2^{N} , if N = L + 2

\left\{( 2^{N-L-1} + 2^{N-L-2} + \Sigma^{N-L-2}_{K=1}( 2^{N-L-2-K} * 2^{K} ) + 2^{N-L-1} ) / 2^{N}
 
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vlad1234 said:
HOpe I'm not wrong this time .

P ( N , L ) =
\left\{2/2^{N} , if N = L + 1

\left\{( 2^{ N-L+1} + 2^{N-L-2} + 2 ) / 2^{N} , if N = L + 2

\left\{( 2^{N-L-1} + 2^{N-L-2} + \Sigma^{N-L-2}_{K=1}( 2^{N-L-2-K} * 2^{K} ) + 2^{N-L-1} ) / 2^{N}

Sorry mate but both your solutions are wrong. You can easily prove this if you try to find P(2,5) or P(1,5) or whatever you want...

Does anybody know if such a formula even exists?
 

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