Probability of Measuring ##L_x = 0## for a Given ##\psi##

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The discussion revolves around calculating the probability of measuring the angular momentum operator ##L_x## to be zero for a given state vector ##\psi## in quantum mechanics. The context involves understanding eigenvalues and eigenvectors associated with the operator ##L_x## and the transformation between different bases in a 3D Hilbert space.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the probability using the inner product of the state vector with the eigenvector corresponding to the eigenvalue zero. There is a focus on transforming the state from one basis to another and determining the relevant components for the measurement.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, emphasizing the need to find the zeroth component in the x-basis without fully transforming the state. There is an acknowledgment of the calculations being performed, but no consensus has been reached on the final probability value.

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Participants note the importance of expressing the state in the correct basis and the implications of linear algebra in determining the components of the vector. There is a mention of the original poster's uncertainty about the next steps in the calculation.

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Homework Statement
Compute the probability that a measurement of ##L_x## will give zero for an angular momentum particle (1) with ##\vert \psi \rangle = \begin{bmatrix} \frac{2}{3} \\ \frac{1}{3} \\
\frac{-2}{3} \end{bmatrix} ##.
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In a 3D Hilbert space, for spin 1, ##L_x = \frac{\hbar}{2} \begin{bmatrix} 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 1 & 0 & 1\\ 0 & 1 & 0 \end{bmatrix}##.
The probability that a measurement of ##L_x## will give zero for a given ##\psi## should be ##\vert \langle L_x = 0 \vert \psi \rangle \vert ^2##, I think.
I found the eigenvalues of ##L_x## to be ##\lambda = -1, 0, 1##. Since it asks for the probability that the measurement will give zero, I think I should be looking at the eigenvector that corresponds to zero, which is ##\begin{bmatrix} \frac{1}{\sqrt 2} \\ 0 \\ \frac{-1}{\sqrt 2} \end{bmatrix} ##.
I am not sure where to go from here?
 
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Simply calculate ##| \langle L_x = 0 | \psi \rangle |^2## in vector form.
 
t0pquark said:
Homework Statement: Compute the probability that a measurement of ##L_x## will give zero for an angular momentum particle (1) with ##\vert \psi \rangle = \begin{bmatrix} \frac{2}{3} \\ \frac{1}{3} \\
\frac{-2}{3} \end{bmatrix} ##.
Homework Equations: In a 3D Hilbert space, for spin 1, ##L_x = \frac{\hbar}{2} \begin{bmatrix} 0 & 1 & 0 \\ 1 & 0 & 1\\ 0 & 1 & 0 \end{bmatrix}##.

The probability that a measurement of ##L_x## will give zero for a given ##\psi## should be ##\vert \langle L_x = 0 \vert \psi \rangle \vert ^2##, I think.
I found the eigenvalues of ##L_x## to be ##\lambda = -1, 0, 1##. Since it asks for the probability that the measurement will give zero, I think I should be looking at the eigenvector that corresponds to zero, which is ##\begin{bmatrix} \frac{1}{\sqrt 2} \\ 0 \\ \frac{-1}{\sqrt 2} \end{bmatrix} ##.
I am not sure where to go from here?

You need to think about what you are doing. You have a state expressed in one basis ( the z-basis). And you really want that state expressed in another basis (the x-basis).

So, you could do all of the work to transform your state to the x-basis and then you could simply read off the probabilities of getting ##-1, 0, 1## for a measurement of ##L_x##: just take the modulus squared of each component.

But, you are only asked for the probability of getting ##L_x = 0##. So, you only need the zeroth component in the x-basis. So, you don't have to do all the work. You only need to find one component.

Now, if you think about linear algebra, the components of any vector ##\psi## in any basis are given by ##\langle b_n | \psi \rangle##, where ##b_n## is nth basis vector.

In this case, you want the zeroth component of ##\psi## in the x-basis. As you have calculated the zeroth x-basis vector, you can just take the inner product of this with ##\psi##. The probability, as above, is the modulus squared of this component.
 
That explanation helps!

So then I have ##( \begin{bmatrix} \frac{1}{ \sqrt 2} \\ 0 \\ \frac{-1}{ \sqrt 2} \end{bmatrix} \cdot \begin{bmatrix} \frac{2}{3} \\ \frac{1}{3} \\ \frac{-2}{3} \end{bmatrix} )^2 = (\frac{2}{3 \sqrt 2} + \frac{2}{3 \sqrt 2})^2 = \frac{8}{9}##, right?
 
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t0pquark said:
That explanation helps!

So then I have ##( \begin{bmatrix} \frac{1}{ \sqrt 2} \\ 0 \\ \frac{-1}{ \sqrt 2} \end{bmatrix} \cdot \begin{bmatrix} \frac{2}{3} \\ \frac{1}{3} \\ \frac{-2}{3} \end{bmatrix} )^2 = (\frac{2}{3 \sqrt 2} + \frac{2}{3 \sqrt 2})^2 = \frac{8}{9}##, right?
The left vector should be a row vector, but otherwise it is correct.
 

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