Problem in determinig Poles of a Solenoid

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The discussion revolves around confusion regarding the poles of a solenoid and their interaction with a permanent magnet. The original poster, hsn, notes that their solenoid attracts the North pole of a magnet instead of the expected South pole, leading to uncertainty about the application of the right hand thumb rule. Respondents suggest that the issue may stem from incorrectly identifying the poles of both the solenoid and the magnet, emphasizing the importance of current flow direction. There is also a mention of potential confusion between conventional current flow and electron movement. Clarifying these points is essential for understanding the behavior of the solenoid in relation to the magnet.
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Hi Everyone,

I have made a solenoid of 100 turns. When i bring a small permanent magnet near the solenoid, it attracts the North pole of permanent magnet while it should attract the South pole according to right hand thumb rule... now i got confused. Kindly help me.

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Not enough information to answer I feel. Maybe a diagram can help. But you are definitely applying the right hand thumb rule wrong. Reason could be you mixed up the poles of the magnet, identify them correctly, AND make sure you identify the poles of the solenoid correctly, based on the current flow direction. If these two things are correct, then you should get proper result.
 
Yeah i have identified the poles on the basis of current flow direction... ! but...
 
Don't they define current flowing from positive to negative even tho the electrons are moving. Sometimes I get the direction of current mixed up.
 
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