Problem with Wolfram's online integrator

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of integrating the function \( \cos(x)^x \) using various online integrators, particularly Wolfram's online integrator. Participants explore the syntax issues, potential interpretations of the integral, and the limitations of different computational tools in providing a solution.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the syntax used for the integral is ambiguous, leading to confusion about whether it refers to \( \cos(x)^x \) or \( (\cos(x))^x \).
  • Another participant suggests that there is likely no known closed form solution for the integral of \( \cos(x)^x \).
  • Several participants express frustration with the performance of various online integrators, including Wolfram and Quickmath, indicating that they fail to provide satisfactory answers.
  • A participant proposes a manipulation based on the bounded nature of \( \cos(x) \), suggesting that integrating \( \cos(x)^x \) could be analogous to integrating \( x^x \) over certain intervals.
  • Another participant challenges this logic, pointing out that it could apply to other functions bounded between -1 and 1, leading to uncertainty about the validity of the approach.
  • One participant concludes that there is no closed form for the integral and suggests numerical evaluation as a possible solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of the integral or its solvability. There are competing views regarding the interpretation of the integral and the effectiveness of different computational tools.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved issues regarding the correct syntax for the integral and the assumptions made about the function being integrated. The discussion also highlights the limitations of various computational tools in handling complex integrals.

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I tried to do integral[cos(x)]^x dx

but Wolfram's online integrator reported that it couldn't do it

Am I missing something?
 
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From your syntax it is not clear if you want to take the integral of cos(x)^x or if you want to take the integral of cos(x) and then raise that to the power of x. If it is the first then there is probably no known closed form solution for that integral.
 
Wolfram is not that good.

Try www.quickmath.com, it's better; or if you're on Linux, there're plenty of computer algebra systems.

However this time quickmath also failed...very hilarious answer.

I tried it in axiom, and the answer is bad -

[tex]\int \sp{\displaystyle x} {{{\cos <br /> \left(<br /> { \%M} <br /> \right)}<br /> \sp \%M} \ {d \%M}} [/tex]

yacas gives the same results (as quickmath).

sympy takes infinite time to solve (as with most complex cases)

So I conclude there's something wrong with the question itself.
 
DaleSpam said:
From your syntax it is not clear if you want to take the integral of cos(x)^x or if you want to take the integral of cos(x) and then raise that to the power of x.
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It's taking the integral of cos(x)^x

dE_logics said:
So I conclude there's something wrong with the question itself.

Maybe, maybe not. I thought of a manipulation:

I figure that for all values of x, cos x will fall in [-1,+1].
So, taking the integral of cos(x)^x is equivalent to taking the integral of x^x over [-1,0] and [0,+1]

What do you think?
 
By that logic the integral would be the same as sin(x)^x or frac(x)^x or saw(x)^x or any other function bounded between -1 and 1.
 
DaleSpam said:
By that logic the integral would be the same as sin(x)^x or frac(x)^x or saw(x)^x or any other function bounded between -1 and 1.

Oh, yes. I see your point. I'm at loss here. What do you suggest?
 
I believe there is no closed form for this integral. You will have to evaluate it numerically.
 

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