Procrastination of my reserch projec

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The discussion revolves around the effects of dropping a lightbulb from a significant height, specifically considering factors such as heat buildup during the fall, air pressure changes, and the potential for the bulb to shatter before hitting the ground. Participants explore various physical principles and hypotheses related to the scenario.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that a lightbulb dropped from a high altitude would likely not break until it hits the ground, based on observations of how lightbulbs fall from smaller heights.
  • Another participant speculates that the large surface area of the bulb might increase air friction, potentially causing it to break at a certain altitude due to heat buildup or centrifugal force from spinning during the fall.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of energy conservation, stating that gravitational potential energy converts into kinetic energy and heat from friction, which could affect the bulb's integrity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the lightbulb would shatter before hitting the ground, with some proposing that it would remain intact until impact while others consider the effects of heat and friction during the fall.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors such as gravitational potential energy, kinetic energy, and heat dissipation, but do not resolve the implications of these factors on the lightbulb's behavior during the fall.

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Individuals interested in physics, particularly those exploring concepts of energy conservation, motion, and material properties under stress.

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procrastination of my reserch project has brought my ADD to this particular subject lol, say you dropped a lightbulb from somewhere very high up, say, from a commercial jet altitude, or any other in witch would change the factors
now my main question is how, or when would it it shatter, if it did. obviosly i know it would break upon hitting the ground, but, first there is the factor of heat built up in falling, might that do it? or the lack of pressure inside the bulb and the steady increace in air pressure as it is dropped. the one i just thought of however was how it would fall, i am assuming that it would fall with the metal downwards as it 1. has the center of gravity and 2. would make the fall more aerodynamic. now as for this, i realized there is a spiral on the metal part of the bulb, so as to plug into the socket, this idea i had was that perhaps while falling, the bulb would begin to spin, probably very rapidly, might this 1. increace the air friction on the glass and make it hot enough to melt/break or 2. my original thought, make the centrificul forse so great the bulb shatters apprt from all the force.

i really should be doing my homework now but i would like some feedback on my little break from responsibility lol

Adam
 
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I would say it would fall with little spin and not break until it hit the ground. Perhaps others that are smarter could prove me wrong however. I get this from just watching how lightbulbs fall from small heights. Its terminal velocity can't be that high I would assume, as its mostly empty and has a large surface area for its mass.
 
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rigth, so i tyhought that the large surface area might make friction an issue, and with the added spin it might increace, it would probably break around a certain altitude dropped from.
just thought of it, a lightbulb falling right in front of you and exploding beore it hit the ground, that would be interesting, although not at all the reason i came up with this lol

Adam
 
I won't bother to work it out, but if you know a little physics here is how you could answer the question:

When the bulb was dropped, all of its energy was stored as gravitational potential. When the bulb was falling, its gravitational potential energy was converted into kinetic energy AND the energy due to heat from friction.

Because energy is conserved, the heat in the bulb is the difference between gravitational potential at the top and kinetic energy at the bottom (ignoring heat dissapation).

Using some engineering data, you can compare the expansion due to the amount of heat the bulb incurred with the maximum expansion rates for glass.
 

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