Programs: solve Maxwell equations for waveguides

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the challenges of solving Maxwell's equations for waveguides, specifically seeking programs that can provide analytic solutions for various geometries. The scope includes theoretical considerations and practical applications in waveguide analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • Patrick expresses frustration with the complexity of solving Maxwell's equations for waveguides and inquires about programs that can yield analytic solutions.
  • Some participants suggest Mathematica and Maple as potential tools for solving these equations.
  • One participant notes that analytic solutions are generally limited to simple geometries and suggests using the paraxial wave equation for waveguide analysis, highlighting its computational efficiency but also its limitations regarding phase effects.
  • Claude mentions commercial software options like RSoft and Raymax, which are designed for waveguide analysis.
  • Zz points out that in fields like electrical engineering and accelerator physics, various software packages exist that can handle electromagnetic waves in complex geometries, though many are commercial and may require special access.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that while there are software options available, the ability to obtain analytic solutions is limited and often dependent on the simplicity of the waveguide geometries. Multiple competing views on the best tools and methods remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependency on the simplicity of geometries for analytic solutions and the potential need for special licenses for some software packages mentioned.

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Hi!,

Solving Maxwell equations for waveguides is a tedious work. :frown:
Are there any programs, which can solve Maxwell equations for different kinds (geometries) of waveguides, and can give analytic solutions (i.e. give symbolic equations)? Therefore, the mathematical expressions of Ex, Ey, Ez, Hx, Hy, Hz /Ez, Er, E(angle), Hz, Hr, H(angle) can be obtained.

Patrick
 
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At a guess: Mathematica and Maple.
 
In terms of analytic solutions, in general, no, not unless your geometries are very simple, certainly nothing you wouldn't find in a textbook.

For waveguide analysis, you could consider using the paraxial wave equation, which is a simple integration that is relatively light in terms of computational resources. The downside is that anything that relies on phase effects like resonances or diffraction gratings won't be modeled correctly. You can also opt to use scalar approximation (for small refractive index contrasts) in favour of the more complete vector form.

RSoft and Raymax are the big commercial software developers for this kind of thing.

EDIT: I assumed by waveguides you meant optical waveguides.

Claude.
 
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In electrical engineering and accelerator physics, there are many software packages that deal with EM waves, be it standing or traveling, in various geometries. Packages such as Microwave Studio, FEMlab, etc. do solve for these complicated geometry and boundary conditions. that is how we design waveguides and RF structures.

Many of these are commercial software, or require special licenses and permission for one to use.

Zz.
 

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