*Project* Building electrical (robotic) arm. Need help

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around building a robotic arm, specifically focusing on creating a clamp mechanism that mimics the motion of a toilet seat. Participants explore various methods for achieving this motion, including the use of hydraulics, electric servo motors, and other mechanical systems.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests starting with a clamp that opens and closes, similar to a toilet seat, and proposes using hydraulics for the motion.
  • Another participant counters that hydraulics may be unnecessary due to its cost and bulk, recommending electric servo motors instead.
  • A different participant mentions using a servo motor with a PWM signal for control, suggesting the use of a 555 timer or a PIC microcontroller for more advanced control.
  • Concerns are raised about the power of servo motors to lift heavier objects, with suggestions for alternative mechanisms like a motor with a rack and pinion or worm gear for slower actions, or a stepper motor for precise control.
  • One participant proposes using a powerful electromagnet for fast opening and closing actions, while also noting the overhead of hydraulic or pneumatic systems.
  • A participant shares a personal experience using a bicycle brake caliper as a gripper, indicating its effectiveness despite its size limitations.
  • There is a correction regarding a book reference related to robotics, with a suggestion to consult a different title for guidance on building a robot arm.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the best method to achieve the desired motion for the clamp, with no consensus on whether hydraulics or electric motors are preferable. Various mechanical solutions are proposed, indicating a range of approaches and preferences.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the most effective mechanism for the clamp, and there are unresolved questions regarding the power requirements and control methods for the proposed solutions.

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Hello, I'm an electrical engineering student and I've decided to build a robotic arm as a final project for one of my classes.

Basically, my skills as far as building circuitry and solving electrical problems are at an intermediate level at this point, however, I'm not too familiar with the mechanics of building a movable arm.

Anyways, before I start anything I want to simply build a clamp that closes and opens with an electrical circuit. More specifically, I want to create a motion that is similar to a toilet seat rising up and coming down.

I think using hydraulics to achieve this would be best, but any other suggestions are more than welcome.

So anyone with any tips as to where I can start or how I can go about making the clamp... please share!

Thanks in advance!

(By the way, if something like what I described is available to purchase online and someone has a link to it, then it would make things much easier for me just to buy it!)
 
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Welcome to PF, Milkisgood.
Unless you need significant power, hydraulics is probably not the best way to go. It's expensive and bulky. You'd be better off using electric servo motors.
 
The easiest way to go is using a servo, and generate a fitting PWM wave to control the circuit, you can use a 555 timer to hack a pwm together, or if you want something fancy, you can get a PIC18f4331, those have about 8? if i remembe correclty PWM's.
 
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I can't imagine a servo being powerful enough to lift a loo seat up directly!
It depends on the control you want and the speed.

If you're happy with a slow action, a motor with a either a rack and pinion arrangement or a worm gear would suffice. For accurate control, use a stepper motor.

If you want a fast open or shut then a powerful electromagnet may do the trick. There's a lot of overhead to running hydraulics or pneumatics, but they would certainly give you the power and the speed to catapult a sitter a fair distance :-)

If you can reduce the angular momentum of the thing you're moving, the less torque you'll need to get it moving.

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Oops, just reread your post, and I think I got the wrong end of the stick regarding size.

Have a look at 123 robotics experiments for the evil genius by Myke Predko. Not a great book, and a bit dated, but from scratch he shows you how to build a robot arm using servos, including the grabby thing.
 
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While it might not be big enough for the intended purpose, I've successfully used a bicycle brake caliper as a gripper (it even has a non-slip contact area). The 'opening' spring needs to be removed, though.
 
Oh god, sorry, another mistake. The book I meant was PIC Robotics: A Beginner's Guide to Robotics Projects Using the PIC Micro by John Iovine.
 

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