1. Limited time only! Sign up for a free 30min personal tutor trial with Chegg Tutors
    Dismiss Notice
Dismiss Notice
Join Physics Forums Today!
The friendliest, high quality science and math community on the planet! Everyone who loves science is here!

Proof of already solved Hard Improper Definite Integral

  1. Dec 29, 2012 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    Some friend of mine found this on a book:
    [tex]\int_{0}^{+inf}\frac{1-cos(\omega t)}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }=ln[\frac{(\frac{T}{C})!}{|(\frac{T}{C}-iTt)!|}][/tex]
    The proof is left for the reader.
    2. Relevant equations
    3. The attempt at a solution
    First very safe step:

    Second.1: A possibility is using a substitution of: x=e^ω But now instead of 1/ω we have 1/ln(x) which is difficult to handle in integration.

    Second.2: I tried using derivation under the integral sign which I've basically never used before, assuming the legality of my move. If it=A.
    [tex]I=\int_{0}^{+inf}\frac{1-e^{it\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }=
    \int_{0}^{+inf}\frac{1-e^{A\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }[/tex]
    \int_{0}^{+inf}\frac{\partial }{\partial A}\frac{1-e^{A\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }=\int_{0}^{+inf}\frac{-e^{A\omega}}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)}[/tex]
    Which may not be convergent. At least as ω goes to zero the function goes to infinite. And as it goes to infinite 1/T must be greater than the exponent of the upper part of the fraction. And I still have to integrate with respect to A after.

    Alternative methods:
    Use of representation by series. Maybe with the help of integration by parts.
    Assuming the result is similar to the derivative result and just try differentiating.
  2. jcsd
  3. Jan 2, 2013 #2


    Staff: Mentor

    What's the variable of integration? You omitted it. Is it ##\omega##? If so, the integral should have d##\omega## in it.

    BTW, the LaTeX code for ∞ is \infty. I replaced your "inf" things throughout your post.
  4. Jan 6, 2013 #3
    Thank you, I didn't know that about latex and I forgot to write dω. ALL INTEGRALS ARE WITH RESPECT TO dω.

    The problem is still open. If anyone can help here it is better written:
    [tex]\int_{0}^{\infty}\frac{1-cos(\omega t)}{e^{\omega /C}(e^{\omega /T}-1)\omega }dω=ln[\frac{(\frac{T}{C})!}{|(\frac{T}{C}-iTt)!|}][/tex]
Know someone interested in this topic? Share this thread via Reddit, Google+, Twitter, or Facebook

Similar Discussions: Proof of already solved Hard Improper Definite Integral