Proof of existence of nonmeasurable sets

In summary, the proof shows that a nonmeasurable set exists, and specifically that the set ##\Phi## is nomeasurable.
  • #1
mathmonkey
34
0
Hi,

I'm reading through a proof of the existence of a nonmeasurable set. I've copied down the proof below more or less verbatim:

Let ##C## be a circumference of length 1, and let ##\alpha## be an irrational number. Partition the points of ##C## into classes by the following rule: Two points of ##C## belong to the same class if and only if one can be carried into the other by a rotation of ##C## through an angle ##n\alpha## where ##n \in \mathbb{Z}##. Each class is clearly countable. We now select a point from each class. We show that the resulting set ##\Phi## is nomeasurable. Denote by ##\Phi _n## the set obtained by rotating ##\Phi##through the angle ##n\alpha##. It is easily seen that all the sets ##\Phi _n## are pairwise disjoint and that their union is ##C##. If the set ##\Phi## were measurable, the sets ##\Phi _n## congruent to it would also be measurable. Since ##C = \bigcup _{n= -\infty}^\infty \Phi _n## and ##\Phi _n \cap \Phi _m = \emptyset##, the additivity of the measure would imply that ##\sum _{n=-\infty}^\infty m(\Phi _n) = 1##. But ##m(\Phi _n) = m(\Phi)## for all ##n##. Hence, ##\Phi## cannot be measurable.



In particular, I am trying to understand the significance of why ##\alpha## has to be an irrational number. Would the proof not hold if we used any other number ##\alpha \in \mathbb{R}##? For your reference, this proof was given in Kolmogorov's "Elements of the Theory of Functions and Functional Analysis". I'd really appreciate if someone could explain this for me. Thanks!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
If [itex]\alpha[/itex] were a rational number, say [itex]\alpha= p/q[/itex] for integers p and q, then [itex]n\apha[/itex] would be an integer for some n. The sets would not be "pairwise disjoint".
 
  • #3
HallsofIvy said:
If [itex]\alpha[/itex] were a rational number, say [itex]\alpha= p/q[/itex] for integers p and q, then [itex]n\apha[/itex] would be an integer for some n. The sets would not be "pairwise disjoint".

Ah okay I see. In the case that ##\alpha \in \mathbb{Q}##, each ##\Phi _n## is either pairwise disjoint or exactly equal to ##\Phi _m## (for example ##\Phi _0 = \Phi _{360}## if ##\alpha = 1##, assuming we are using degree angles), so that consequently we wouldn't have the the infinite union ##C = \bigcup _{n=-\infty}^\infty \Phi _n## but rather a finite union ##C = \bigcup _{n=1}^k \Phi _n ## after removing redundant sets, where the contradiction would no longer hold. Is this more or less what you are hinting at? Thanks!
 

Related to Proof of existence of nonmeasurable sets

1. What is a nonmeasurable set?

A nonmeasurable set is a set that does not have a well-defined measure or size. This means that it cannot be assigned a number that represents its size, unlike measurable sets which have a finite or countably infinite measure.

2. Why is the existence of nonmeasurable sets important?

The existence of nonmeasurable sets is important in mathematics because it challenges the fundamental concept of measure, which is used to define the size of sets. It also has implications in other areas of mathematics such as probability theory, where the existence of nonmeasurable sets leads to counterintuitive results.

3. How was the existence of nonmeasurable sets proven?

The existence of nonmeasurable sets was first proven by mathematician Georg Cantor in the late 19th century using a method called the Vitali construction. This method involves constructing a nonmeasurable set by choosing one representative from each equivalence class of a certain equivalence relation on the real numbers.

4. Are there real-world examples of nonmeasurable sets?

There are no physical or tangible examples of nonmeasurable sets, as they are purely mathematical constructs. However, they have applications in probability theory, where they can be used to model certain phenomena such as the flipping of a coin or the rolling of a die.

5. What are the implications of the existence of nonmeasurable sets?

The existence of nonmeasurable sets has important implications in mathematics, particularly in the field of analysis. It challenges our understanding of measure and forces us to rethink our approach to defining and measuring the size of sets. It also has applications in other areas of mathematics such as probability theory and functional analysis.

Similar threads

  • Differential Geometry
Replies
2
Views
607
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
4
Views
387
  • Calculus and Beyond Homework Help
Replies
20
Views
2K
  • Topology and Analysis
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • Topology and Analysis
Replies
2
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • Linear and Abstract Algebra
Replies
1
Views
945
  • Set Theory, Logic, Probability, Statistics
Replies
3
Views
4K
Back
Top