1effect said:
How did you make up this "transform" again? Did you find it in a book or in the paper that you cited earlier? Did you get it from
here ?
Nope. I do not have a relativity book nor access to the content of that publication site. I am not sure what to make of the formula y' = y' (x,y) is y' = u x -1 y, at x' = 0 quoted on that page without seeing the rest of the article.
The formula F_{xyz}=\sqrt {\left( {f_x^2+(f_y^2+f_z^2)(1-v^2/c^2)\right)
was based on a analysis we did of how the force of a static spring transforms in another thread.
Using Hooke's Law
F= EA\left({\Delta L \over L}\right)
Where E is Young's modulus, A is the cross sectional area of the spring and {\left({\Delta L \over L}\right) is the ratio of the spring extension to its relaxed length.
From that we got:
F_x= EA{\left(\Delta L\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}\right) \over \left(L\sqrt<br />
{1-v^2/c^2}\right)} = f_x
for the longitudinal force and
F_y= E \left(A\sqrt{1-v^/c^2}\right){\left({\Delta L \over L\right)=f_y\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}
F_z= E \left(A\sqrt{1-v^/c^2}\right){\left({\Delta L \over L\right)=f_z\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}
for the transverse case.
The magnitude of the transformed force for any orientation is obtained from the resultant (or vector sum) of the force vector components (basically Pythagorous):
F = \sqrt{F_x^2+F_y^2+F_z^2} = \sqrt{f_x^2+\left(f_y\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}\right)^2+\left(f_z\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}\right)^2 }=\sqrt{f_x^2+(f_y^2+f_z^2)(1-v^2/c^2)
1effect said:
Why do areas add up and transform in such a funny way? How did you derive this:
{\bf A}=\sqrt {\left( {{\bf a_x^2}+{\bf a_y^2}(1-v^2/c^2)\right)}
Why are the force and the area "transforming" differently? The force has the term in f_z while the area is missing the term in a_z. This is not symmetric. Where are you getting all this stuff? Did you find this in any book or did you make it up?
{\bf A}=\sqrt { {{\bf a_x^2}+{\bf a_y^2}(1-v^2/c^2))} should be used with {\bf F}=\sqrt { {{\bf f_x^2}+{\bf f_y^2}(1-v^2/c^2)}
and A=\sqrt{a_x^2+(a_y^2+a_z^2)(1-v^2/c^2) with F=\sqrt{f_x^2+(f_y^2+f_z^2)(1-v^2/c^2)
I started with the 2D case as that is easier to analyse. Initially I considered only forces in the x,y plane. The z component of the surface the forces are acting on is always at right angles to the x-axis so it does not length contract. Since Lz is constant through the transformation we can give it a nominal value and ignore it.
Have a look at the attached diagram. The vector area Ax is the same as looking at the white face from the x-axis and does not change when the cube is length contracted. The vector area Ay is the same as looking at the white face from above and it appears length contracted. The vector area Az is looking at the white face from along the z axis and all you see is a line so the value of Az is zero (When we only consider rotations of the cube around the z axis.
In the diagram the cube on the right is at rest. the scalar area of the white face is j*k. When we convert the the area into coordinate terms the scalar area is j*k = \left(\sqrt{d_x^2+dy^2}\right)d_z
The cube on the left represents the length contracted cube moving parallel to the x axis.
The scalar area of the white face of the length contracted cube is J*K = \sqrt{\left(d_x\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}\right)^2+dy^2+d_z^2}
If you look at the vector area normal to the scalar surface (shown by the blue vectors) it is easy to see that the vector area x component is invariant and that it is the y (and z) components that are reduced by the Lorentz factor when we are considering the normal to the physical surface. The vector area therefore transforms as A=\sqrt{a_x^2+(a_y^2+a_z^2)(1-v^2/c^2)}
I do not agree with the statement in the Springer link abstract "We show that static forces, as defined by Hooke's law, do not transform in the same way as the usual dynamical forces, thus giving rise to the paradoxes. This inconsistency justifies the present search for alternative theories such as the modern ether theories." I think Special Relativity IS consistent and I gave reasons in an earlier post as why static and dynamic forces transform differently.