Proof that ax^2 + bx + c has No Rational Zeroes if a,b, and c are Odd

In summary, the problem states that the roots under consideration are RATIONAL, so there is reason to suppose $\alpha$ is an integer, for example, the polynomial $4x^2 - 4x + 1$ has integer coefficients, but its only root is $\frac{1}{2}$.
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Well, let's look at how this works.

Quadratic equations can have either 1, 2, or no zeroes. If it has no real zeroes, the zeroes it DOES have are complex, so that's obviously not it.

Let's imagine \(\displaystyle ax^2 + bx + c = 0\) has one zero, call it \(\displaystyle \alpha\) (Cuz it looks pretty).

Then that means \(\displaystyle ax^2 + bx + c = (x+\alpha)(x+\alpha) = x^2 + 2\alpha x + \alpha^2\)

Seeing that, we see that \(\displaystyle b = 2\alpha\), which isn't odd an odd number.

The above example is imagining \(\displaystyle \alpha < 0\); if \(\displaystyle \alpha > 0\), it'd be the same thing: \(\displaystyle b = -2\alpha\)

Now, let's take it as if it had two zeroes: \(\displaystyle \alpha\) and \(\displaystyle \beta\).

\(\displaystyle ax^2 + bx + c = (x+\alpha)(x+\beta) = x^2 + x\beta + x\alpha + \alpha\beta = x^2 + x(\alpha+\beta) + \alpha\beta\)

So, let's imagine now that all coefficients are odd.

a = 1, because the coefficient of x squared is 1.
b = \(\displaystyle \alpha + \beta\), so one of those most be even not both.
c = \(\displaystyle \alpha \beta\), this leads to a contradiction with b, because if either alpha or beta is even, then b is even.

Is this right? If I show this to my teacher, will she accept it?
 
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IHateFactorial said:
Well, let's look at how this works.

Quadratic equations can have either 1, 2, or no zeroes. If it has no real zeroes, the zeroes it DOES have are complex, so that's obviously not it.

Let's imagine \(\displaystyle ax^2 + bx + c = 0\) has one zero, call it \(\displaystyle \alpha\) (Cuz it looks pretty).

Then that means \(\displaystyle ax^2 + bx + c = (x+\alpha)(x+\alpha) = x^2 + 2\alpha x + \alpha^2\)

This is untrue. For example, $x^2 - 2x + 1$ and $4x - 8x + 4$ both have the single root 1, but the coefficient of the $x^2$ term in the second polynomial isn't $a = 1$.

Furthermore, if $\alpha$ is our single root, all we know is that $(x - \alpha)^2$ is a factor (not $(x + \alpha)^2$).

The problem states that the roots under consideration are RATIONAL, so there is reason to suppose $\alpha$ is an integer, for example, the polynomial $4x^2 - 4x + 1$ has integer coefficients, but its only root is $\frac{1}{2}$.

Seeing that, we see that \(\displaystyle b = 2\alpha\), which isn't odd an odd number.

It could be if $\alpha = \dfrac{2k+1}{2}$ for an integer $k$.

The above example is imagining \(\displaystyle \alpha < 0\); if \(\displaystyle \alpha > 0\), it'd be the same thing: \(\displaystyle b = -2\alpha\)

Now, let's take it as if it had two zeroes: \(\displaystyle \alpha\) and \(\displaystyle \beta\).

\(\displaystyle ax^2 + bx + c = (x+\alpha)(x+\beta) = x^2 + x\beta + x\alpha + \alpha\beta = x^2 + x(\alpha+\beta) + \alpha\beta\)

So, let's imagine now that all coefficients are odd.

a = 1, because the coefficient of x squared is 1.
b = \(\displaystyle \alpha + \beta\), so one of those most be even not both.
c = \(\displaystyle \alpha \beta\), this leads to a contradiction with b, because if either alpha or beta is even, then b is even.

Is this right? If I show this to my teacher, will she accept it?

I seriously doubt it.

I think you're lost in useless territory here, what you want to show is that:

$ax^2 + bx + c$ has a rational root if and only if $b^2 - 4ac$ is a perfect square of a rational number. Since $a,b,c$ are all integers, this means $b^2 - 4ac$ is the square of an integer.

If $a,b,c$ are all ODD, then $b^2 - 4ac$ must likewise be an odd integer, and thus if it is a square, is the square of an odd integer.

See if you can prove $b^2-1 = (b+1)(b-1)$ is an odd multiple of $4$. Why is this a contradiction?
 

1. What is the proof that ax^2 + bx + c has no rational zeroes if a, b, and c are odd?

The proof for this statement is that if a polynomial has rational zeroes, it can be written in the form (x - p/q)(x - r/s), where p/q and r/s are two rational numbers. However, if a, b, and c are all odd, then p/q and r/s must also be odd, and when multiplied together, the result will be an odd number. This means that the polynomial cannot be factored into two rational numbers, and therefore, it has no rational zeroes.

2. Can you provide an example to illustrate this proof?

One example of a polynomial that satisfies this condition is x^2 + 3x + 5. Here, a = 1, b = 3, and c = 5, all of which are odd. If this polynomial had rational zeroes, it could be factored into the form (x - p/q)(x - r/s), with p/q and r/s being two odd rational numbers. However, no such combination of two odd rational numbers can multiply together to give an odd number, making it impossible for this polynomial to have rational zeroes.

3. Why is it important to prove that ax^2 + bx + c has no rational zeroes if a, b, and c are odd?

This proof is important because it helps us to understand the properties of polynomials and their roots. It also allows us to make generalizations about polynomials with specific coefficients, which can be useful in solving equations and creating mathematical models.

4. Does this proof apply to all polynomials with odd coefficients?

No, this proof only applies to polynomials of the form ax^2 + bx + c, where a, b, and c are all odd. Other polynomials with odd coefficients may have rational zeroes.

5. Can this proof be extended to polynomials with other types of coefficients?

Yes, this proof can be extended to polynomials with other types of coefficients, such as even or prime numbers. However, the specific conditions for each type of coefficient may differ, and therefore, a separate proof would need to be provided for each case.

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