Propeller Slipstream & Tailplane Instability

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the impact of propeller slipstream on tailplane stability in aircraft design. Participants explore the significance of this effect, particularly in relation to the use of single versus dual rudders in tractor propeller configurations, and consider computational fluid dynamics (CFD) as a method for analyzing the slipstream's path.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the propeller slipstream significantly affects tailplane stability, suggesting that a single rudder may be insufficient in certain designs, potentially necessitating two rudders positioned away from the slipstream.
  • Another participant notes that the impact of the slipstream is contingent on the specific aircraft design, indicating that it modifies the vertical fin's angle of attack through a sidewash effect.
  • A participant inquires about methods to determine the path of the slipstream helix, specifically asking if CFD could be utilized for this purpose.
  • In response, another participant affirms that CFD can be employed to visualize streamlines, but cautions that it would be a substantial undertaking requiring significant computational resources.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the significance of the propeller slipstream's effect on tailplane stability, with no consensus reached on the necessity of dual rudders. The discussion also reflects varying opinions on the feasibility and practicality of using CFD for analysis.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the assumptions regarding aircraft design specifics or the computational requirements for CFD analysis, leaving these aspects open for further exploration.

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Is the effect that the propeller slipstream (i.e the helix) hits the tailplane causing much instability quite significant such that if u are using a tractor propeller a single rudder won't work creating the need for two rudders away from the slipstream path??
 
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There is no easy answer to that question, as it depends on the design of the aircraft. The effect of the slipstream is to induce a sidewash factor that modifies the vertical fins angle of attack.
 
Is there any way to actually find the path of the helix?...like using CFD.
 
Sure, you can run CFD and then look at a plot of the streamlines. But that is going to be a huge under taking, and require a ton of processing power.
 

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