Protons, Neutrons, and Electrons

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The discussion revolves around calculating the total number of protons, neutrons, and electrons in various isotopes, specifically ^{9}Be^{+}, ^{12}C, and ^{15}N^{+++}. The original poster expresses a desire to understand how to derive these values using the periodic table and basic atomic principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply the formula A = Z + N to determine the number of neutrons and electrons for the isotopes. They express uncertainty about the calculations and seek clarification on how to use the periodic table for this purpose.

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Participants are engaged in clarifying the calculations related to the isotopes. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between atomic mass, protons, and neutrons, and there is an acknowledgment of minor errors in the original poster's calculations. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to explore the topic further.

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The original poster mentions that the question was posed in a physics class, indicating a context of academic inquiry. There is also a note of reliance on online information, suggesting potential gaps in understanding that participants are addressing.

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1. I have ^{9}Be^{+}, ^{12}C, and ^{15}N^{+++} isotopes, and I need to find the total of protons, neutrons, and electrons.
A = Z + N, where A is the atomic mass number and Z is the number of protons and N is the number of Neutrons.
3. I know this is an easy question, I put it in physics because they asked me this in my physics class. For beryllium, I think there is ONE less electron right? Normally it would be four since there are four protons, so then there are three electrons, three protons and 6 neutrons? Since A is 9, for the others I am still weary, since I got this info online, I just want to know how to get this from the periodic table and just figure it out myself, thanks!
 
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For beryllium, I think there is ONE less electron right? Normally it would be four since there are four protons, so then there are three electrons, three protons and 3 neutrons? Since A is 9,

Close. You're right about the protons and electrons. But you made a small subtraction error when calculating the number of neutrons. Try again?

for the others I am still weary, since I got this info online, I just want to know how to get this from the periodic table and just figure it out myself, thanks!

The only thing you need to know from the periodic table is the atomic number, which tells you the number of protons. You are given the value of A and the total charge on the isotope, so you can easily get the numbers of neutrons and electrons.
 
Ok, so N = A - Z, so 9 - 4 = 5 neutrons, 4 protons, and 3 electrons, thanks!
 
Yes, that's right. That basic algorithm will work for the other isotopes, too.
 
Thank you :D, I figured it out.
 

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