Size of proton, neutron and electron

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the relative sizes of protons, neutrons, and electrons, as posed in a homework question. The subject area includes particle physics and atomic structure.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the original poster's confusion regarding the sizes of subatomic particles, particularly the distinction between absolute and relative sizes. There is a discussion about the appropriateness of using wave functions to describe the size of an electron compared to protons and neutrons.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding terminology and the nature of the sizes being discussed. There is an ongoing exploration of how to accurately represent the sizes relative to one another, with no clear consensus yet on how to proceed.

Contextual Notes

The original poster is in year 9 and expresses uncertainty about the concepts involved. There is mention of potential confusion regarding the terminology used for measurements (femtometers vs. fermions) and the nature of the electron's size.

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Homework Statement


So my teacher set us half term homework and one of the questions was state the relative size of a proton a neutron and an electron

Homework Equations


Not sure about equations

The Attempt at a Solution


Im a bit confused because everyone in my class got
Proton: 1
Neutron: 1
Electron: negligible
But i got-
Proton: 0.84 fermatons (idk if that's spelt right)
Neutron: 0.84 fermatons
Electron: The size of its wave function

Im confused and need a bit of help- I am in year 9 so I am not reall hugley educated.
 
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I guess you mean femtometer (sometimes called Fermi).
Lucy11802 said:
Electron: The size of its wave function
That is a problematic approach, because it means the size of the electron depends on where it is. If you want to use this approach, then you should also consider wave functions for protons and neutrons.

The question was about relative sizes. 0.84 femtometer is the absolute size.
 
mfb said:
I guess you mean femtometer (sometimes called Fermi).That is a problematic approach, because it means the size of the electron depends on where it is. If you want to use this approach, then you should also consider wave functions for protons and neutrons.

The question was about relative sizes. 0.84 femtometer is the absolute size.
Oh okay thanks, so should i just make the size less accurate and change the electron one then?
 
What do you mean by "less accurate"?

If the electron has an intrinsic size (in the same way as proton and neutron have a size), it has to be extremely tiny.
 
Lucy11802 said:
Oh okay thanks, so should i just make the size less accurate and change the electron one then?
You are asked for the relative size, i.e., compared to each other. If you are twice as tall as your little sister, then your relative sizes are 2 and 1 (or 1 and 1/2), whatever your heights are in meters.
 

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