Prove a vector is perpendicular to a plane?

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The discussion revolves around proving that a vector D, defined in terms of the cross products of vectors A, B, and C, is perpendicular to the plane formed by these points. The context involves vector mathematics, specifically the properties of cross products and dot products in relation to planes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the cross product of vectors and the perpendicularity to a plane. There are attempts to express D in terms of cross products and to understand how the dot product can indicate perpendicularity. Some participants question how to mathematically demonstrate the perpendicularity of D to the plane.

Discussion Status

Several participants are exploring different aspects of the problem, including the properties of the dot product and the vector equation of a plane. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the mathematical relationships involved, with some guidance offered about the normal vector and its relation to the plane. However, there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of using LaTeX for mathematical expressions and the potential constraints imposed by homework rules regarding the use of shortcuts or specific methods.

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Homework Statement


Vectors A, B and C are vectors from the origin to the points a, b, c respectively, and the Vector D is defined as

D= (AxB)+(BxC)+(CxA)

Show that D is Perpendicular to the plane in which the points A, B, and C lie


Homework Equations


Cross Product


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried writing everything out doing the Det of each Cross product to find anything to cancel without any luck.

I also understand that if a b and c are points lying on a plane, then crossing each of these vectors AxB, BxC, and CxA should give me a vector perpendicular to that plane...how do I show this mathmatically?

Thanks for the help =)
 
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Couple of things I suppose. The dot product of perpendicular vectors is zero. so D dotted into the vector from A to B or B to C or C to A etc. should all be zero. Do you know the vector equation of a plane?
 
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Kurdt said:
Couple of things I suppose. The dot product of perpendicular vectors is zero. so D dotted into the vector from A to B or B to C or C to A etc. should all be zero. Do you know the vector equation of a plane?


n . (r->p) = 0

if n is the normal vector ( D in this case I think )
r and p are the points in the plane ( A->B, B->C, C->A)

I'm still not understanding how it relates =(
 
Hi dangsy, a shortcut (if it's allowed by your teacher)!

Three points always lie in a plane -- that we know. Chose the point 'a' as the origin.

Then A = 0, which gives,

D = BXC, which we know is perp to the plane.
 
Let [tex]\overrightarrow{n}[/tex]= Normal vector of the plane where points a, b and c lie on.

[tex] \begin{equation*}<br /> \begin{split}<br /> \overrightarrow{n} &= \overrightarrow{ab}\ x\ \overrightarrow{bc} <br /> \\<br /> &= (\overrightarrow{B} - \overrightarrow{A})\ x\ (\overrightarrow{C} - \overrightarrow{B})<br /> \\<br /> &= [(\overrightarrow{B} - \overrightarrow{A})\ x\ \overrightarrow{C}] - [(\overrightarrow{B} - \overrightarrow{A})\ x\ \vec{B}] <br /> \\<br /> &= [(\overrightarrow{B} \ x\ \overrightarrow{C})\ - (\overrightarrow{A} \ x\ \overrightarrow{C})] \ -\ [(\overrightarrow{B} \ x\ \overrightarrow{B})\ - (\overrightarrow{A} \ x\ \overrightarrow{B})]<br /> \\<br /> &= [(\overrightarrow{B} \ x\ \overrightarrow{C})\ + (\overrightarrow{C} \ x\ \overrightarrow{A})] \ +\ (\overrightarrow{A} \ x\ \overrightarrow{B})]<br /> \\ <br /> &=(\overrightarrow{A} \ x\ \overrightarrow{B})\ + (\overrightarrow{B} \ x\ \overrightarrow{C}) \ +\ (\overrightarrow{C} \ x\ \overrightarrow{A})<br /> <br /> \ Note\ that: -(\overrightarrow{A} \ x\ \overrightarrow{C}) = \overrightarrow{C} \ x\ \overrightarrow{A}\ and \ \overrightarrow{B} \ x\ \overrightarrow{B} = \overrightarrow{0} <br /> \\<br /> &=\overrightarrow{D} <br /> \\<br /> &\overrightarrow{n} = \overrightarrow{D} <br /> \\<br /> &\ which\ means\ \overrightarrow{n} \ is \ parallel \ with\ \overrightarrow{D}<br /> \\<br /> &\overrightarrow{n}\ is \ perpendicular \ to \ the \ plane.\ Therefore,\ \overrightarrow{D} \ is\ also \ perpendicular\ to \ the \ plane. <br /> \end{split}<br /> \end{equation*}[/tex]

This Latex is extremely difficult to use.
 
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