Prove Binomial Identity: Differentiation vs Subsitution

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Prove this using this identity:
<br /> k\binom{n}{k}=n\binom{n-1}{k-1}<br />
<br /> \binom{n}{1}-2\binom{n}{2}+3\binom{n}{3}+...+(-1)<sup>n-1</sup>\binom{n}{n}<br />

I was able to do this via differentiation, but not using this substitution. Any hints would be great.
 
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Hi chaotixmonjuish! :smile:

(use ^ and _ not sup and sub in latex :wink:)
chaotixmonjuish said:
Prove this using this identity:
<br /> k\binom{n}{k}=n\binom{n-1}{k-1}<br />
<br /> \binom{n}{1}-2\binom{n}{2}+3\binom{n}{3}+...+(-1)<sup>n-1</sup>\binom{n}{n}<br />

I was able to do this via differentiation, but not using this substitution. Any hints would be great.

Well, the n is the same all the way through, that leaves a sum which should be easy. :wink:
 
what do you mean?
 
chaotixmonjuish said:
what do you mean?

Show us what you get when you substitute. :smile:
 
Well this is something I sort of worked out:

<br /> \binom{n}{1}-2\binom{n}{2}+...+(-1)^k\binom{n}{n}<br />
Using the binomial theorem
<br /> \sum_{k=0}^{n}\binom{n}{k}x^{k}=(1+x)^{n}<br />
Are you saying I can just throw in the identity without doing anything or would I have to multiply across with a k so that
<br /> \sum_{k=0}^{n}k\binom{n}{k}x^{k-1}=k(1+x)^{n}<br />
so that
<br /> \sum_{k=1}^{n-1}n\binom{n-1}{k-1}=k(x)^{k-1}<br />
<br /> \sum_{l=0}^{n}n\binom{n-1}{l}x^{k-1}<br />

I'm ignoring 1 because 1 to any power is 1
 
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Why are you making this so complicated? :redface:

Start with <br /> \sum_{l=0}^{n-1}n\binom{n-1}{l}<br /> …

what (in ordinary language) is (i'm leaving out the n :wink:) …

<br /> \sum_{l=0}^{n-1}\binom{n-1}{l}<br /> ? :smile:
 
Well k-1=n, if that is what you are hinting at.
 
No … what (in ordinary language) is \binom{n-1}{l}<br /> (or n-1Cl) …

it's the number of … ? :smile:
 
Its sort of like saying its the number of ways you can select a leader (n), then how many different ways you can't form a team for leader \binom{n-1}{l}
 
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chaotixmonjuish said:
Its sort of like saying its the number of ways you can select a leader (n), then how many different ways you can't form a team for leader \binom{n-1}{l}

Yes …

n-1Cl is the number of ways of choosing l things from n-1 …

so (to get the ∑) what is the number of ways of choosing 1 thing or 2 things or … n-1 things from n-1? :smile:
 
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so would the final answer be

<br /> n\sum_{k=1}^{n-1} \binom{n-1}{l}x^{l-1}<br />
 
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chaotixmonjuish said:
so would the final answer be

<br /> n\sum_{k=1}^{n-1} \binom{n-1}{l}x^{l-1}<br />

i said you were making this complicated :rolleyes:

wherever did x come from? :confused:

(and you never answered:
what is the number of ways of choosing 1 thing or 2 things or … n-1 things from n-1?
)
 

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