Prove equation in Green's function.

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The discussion revolves around proving a property related to Green's function in a specified region with boundary conditions. The original poster presents a problem involving harmonic functions and the behavior of integrals around a singular point.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the functions involved, particularly focusing on the boundedness of |u| and |∂h/∂n| near the point (x_0, y_0). There is an emphasis on clarifying the integration path and the implications of the boundary conditions.

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Some participants have provided guidance on applying the hint from the original problem statement, while others are exploring the implications of the boundedness of the functions involved. There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions regarding the harmonic nature of h and its derivatives.

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Participants note the importance of understanding the behavior of the functions near the singularity and the implications of the boundary conditions on the integration process.

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Homework Statement



Green's function [itex]G(x_0,y_0,x,y) =v(x_0,y_0,x,y) + h(x_0,y_0,x,y)[/itex] in a region [itex]\Omega \hbox { with boundary } \Gamma[/itex]. Also [itex]v(x_0,y_0,x,y) = -h(x_0,y_0,x,y)[/itex] on boundary [itex]\Gamma[/itex] and both [itex]v(x_0,y_0,x,y) \hbox { and }h(x_0,y_0,x,y)[/itex] are harmonic function in [itex]\Omega[/itex]

[tex]v=\frac{1}{2}ln[(x-x_0)^2 + (y-y_0)^2][/tex]




Let u be continuous and h is harmonic on an open disk around [itex](x_0,y_0)[/itex] in [itex]\Omega[/itex]. Show that

[tex]_r\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}_0 \int_{C_r} u\frac{\partial h}{\partial n} ds = 0[/tex]

Hint from the book: Both |u| and [itex]|\frac{\partial h}{\partial n}|[/itex] are bounded near [itex](x_0,y_0)[/itex], say by M. If [itex]I_r[/itex] denotes the integral in question, then [itex]|I_r| \leq 2\pi M r \rightarrow 0 \hbox { as } r\rightarrow 0[/itex]

Homework Equations



Green's 1st identity:

[tex]\int _{\Omega} ( u\nabla^2 h + \nabla u \cdot \nabla h ) dx dy = \int_{\Gamma} u \frac{\partial h}{\partial n} ds[/tex]




The Attempt at a Solution



[tex]h=-v \hbox { on } \Gamma \Rightarrow\; \int _{\Omega} ( u\nabla^2 h + \nabla u \cdot \nabla h ) dx dy = -\int_{\Gamma} u \frac{\partial v}{\partial n} ds = -\int_{\Gamma} u \frac{1}{r} ds = -\int^{2\pi}_{0} u d\theta[/tex]

h is harmonic in [itex]\Omega\;\Rightarrow \nabla^2 h = 0[/itex]

[tex]\Rightarrow\; \int _{\Omega} \nabla u \cdot \nabla h \; dx dy = -\int^{2\pi}_{0} u d\theta[/tex]
I really don't know how to continue, please help.
 
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h = -v on Γ. You're not integrating over Γ; you're integrating around a small circle Cr around (x0, y0). You haven't said what h is, but by the hint, presumably ∂h/∂n is bounded on some disk centered at (x0, y0). This is certainly not true if h = -v on this disk, as ∂v/∂n = 1/r is not bounded. If h has no singularity at (x0, y0), then certainly ∂h/∂n is bounded on such a disk, as h has a continuous derivative (since by assumption h is harmonic).

Apply the hint.
 
adriank said:
h = -v on Γ. You're not integrating over Γ; you're integrating around a small circle Cr around (x0, y0). You haven't said what h is, but by the hint, presumably ∂h/∂n is bounded on some disk centered at (x0, y0). This is certainly not true if h = -v on this disk, as ∂v/∂n = 1/r is not bounded. If h has no singularity at (x0, y0), then certainly ∂h/∂n is bounded on such a disk, as h has a continuous derivative (since by assumption h is harmonic).

Apply the hint.

Thanks for you help, let me try this:

Let u be continuous and h is harmonic on an open disk around [itex](x_0,y_0)[/itex] in [itex]\Omega[/itex]. Show that

[tex]_r\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}_0 \int_{C_r} u\frac{\partial h}{\partial n} ds = 0[/tex]

Hint from the book: Both |u| and [itex]|\frac{\partial h}{\partial n}|[/itex] are bounded near [itex](x_0,y_0)[/itex], say by M. If [itex]I_r[/itex] denotes the integral in question, then [itex]|I_r| \leq 2\pi M r \rightarrow 0 \hbox { as } r\rightarrow 0[/itex]

So [itex]|u| \hbox { and } |\frac{\partial h}{\partial n}|\; \leq\; M[/itex]. As [itex](x,y)\rightarrow\;(x_0,y_0)[/itex]

[tex]_r\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}_0 \int_{C_r} u\frac{\partial h}{\partial n} ds = \;^+_- M^2\; \int^{2\pi}_{0} r\;d\theta \;=\; _r\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}_0 \; (2\pi M^2r) \;=\; 0[/tex]

I have [itex]M^2 \hbox { because } u\frac{\partial h}{\partial n} \leq M^2[/itex]
 
Yes. Now you have to prove that both |u| and |∂h/∂n| are bounded near that point.
 
adriank said:
Yes. Now you have to prove that both |u| and |∂h/∂n| are bounded near that point.

Thanks for your time. But I got M^2 instead of M. It does not matter because r goes to zero.
 

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