Prove Function is Constant on [a,b]

In summary, to prove that a function f:[a,b]--> Q is constant on [a,b], a proof by contradiction can be used. Assuming that f is not constant on [a,b], there must exist c, d in [a,b] such that f(c) != f(d). Using the intermediate value theorem, we can find an irrational number e between f(c) and f(d). However, since f is continuous on [a,b], there must exist a j such that f(k) = j, meaning that f(c) and f(d) must be equal, which contradicts our initial assumption. Therefore, f is constant on [a,b].
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Homework Statement



for function f:[a,b]--> Q is continuous on [a,b],
prove that f is constant on [a,b]


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The Attempt at a Solution



proof by contradiction,
suppose there is a k, such that a<k<b,
since f is continuous on [a,b], there must be a j, such that f(k)=j.

Since on any fixed interval there is an uncountable number of irrational numbers, then there must be a k, such that f(k) = j and j is not a rational number.

therefore is f:[a,b] --> Q is continuous, f must be constant on [a,b]



I was told that my suggestion is "plausible" but not a proof. Any help? thanks
 
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A contradiction proof sounds like the right way to start.

So assume: f:[a,b]--> Q is continuous on [a,b] and that that f is not constant on [a,b].

So there exists c,d in [a,b] such that f(c) != f(d). (WLOG, f(c)<f(d)). Between any two rational numbers there exists an irrational number, so there exists e such that f(c) < e < f(d). Using the intermediate value theorem, what do we know?

Just realized, do you "know" intermediate value theorem yet? If not you might have to take another approach.
 
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The mean value theorem won't help. It isn't given that the function is differentiable.
 
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Stephen Tashi said:
The mean value theorem won't help. It isn't given that the function is differentiable.

Yeah, I fixed it. Was getting them confused.
 

1. What does it mean to prove a function is constant on [a,b]?

Proving a function is constant on [a,b] means showing that the function has the same output for all values within the interval [a,b]. This means that the graph of the function will be a horizontal line on the interval, indicating that the function does not change with different inputs.

2. Why is it important to prove a function is constant on [a,b]?

Proving a function is constant on [a,b] is important in many areas of mathematics and science. It allows us to make conclusions about the behavior of the function without having to evaluate it at every point. Additionally, it is a fundamental property that can be used to prove other theorems and properties of functions.

3. What are some methods for proving a function is constant on [a,b]?

One common method for proving a function is constant on [a,b] is to use the Mean Value Theorem, which states that if a function is continuous on [a,b] and differentiable on (a,b), then there exists at least one point c in (a,b) where the derivative of the function is equal to the average rate of change over the interval [a,b]. Another method is to use the definition of a constant function, which requires showing that the function has the same output for all inputs within the interval.

4. Can a function be constant on [a,b] but not on other intervals?

Yes, a function can be constant on [a,b] but not on other intervals. For example, a function could be constant on [0,1] but not on [1,2]. This is because the behavior of the function can change depending on the interval, even if it is constant on one particular interval.

5. How does proving a function is constant on [a,b] relate to the concept of limits?

Proving a function is constant on [a,b] is closely related to the concept of limits. This is because a function is constant on an interval if and only if the limit of the function as x approaches any point within the interval is equal to the value of the function at that point. In other words, the function has the same output at every point within the interval, which is equivalent to saying that the limit of the function is constant on the interval.

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