Prove that (-1,1) is homeomorphic to R (real numbers)

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The problem involves proving that the open interval (-1, 1) is homeomorphic to the set of real numbers R, using the standard topology derived from the usual metric. Participants are exploring the properties of functions and their inverses in the context of topology.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss constructing a function to demonstrate the homeomorphism, with one suggesting a specific function and another considering the use of trigonometric functions. Questions arise about the continuity of the function and its inverse, as well as the implications of using certain theorems.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being considered. Some participants have offered potential functions and questioned the need for additional proofs regarding continuity. There is recognition of the complexity of ensuring the continuity of the inverse function, and some participants express uncertainty about the requirements for proving homeomorphism.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is situated within a topology course, suggesting that certain advanced analysis theorems may not be applicable. There is also a mention of potential constraints regarding the expectations of the instructor.

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Homework Statement


Prove that (-1,1) is homeomorphic to R (real numbers), with the topology given by the usual metric.


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The Attempt at a Solution



I constructed the function f(x) = [1/(1-x) - 1/(1+x)]/2 = x/[(1+x)(1-x)] which is continuous and maps (-1,1) to R. Next I need to show that f has a continuous inverse. I'm stuck here.
 
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Can you use theorems such as the formula for the derivative if the inverse of an increasing function?

Or if not that, there is a similar looking trig function that might be easier to work with.
 


It's not all that difficult to explicitely find the inverse function using the quadratic formula.
Then the only "technical difficulty" is if y= 0.
 


I'm still not sure. This is a topology course so no difficult analysis type theorems should be involved I think. To prove that the function (not its inverse) is continuous is it sufficient to say that it is a rational function who's denominator is non-zero on the interval?
I can't think of any simpler trig function to use either.
 


madness said:
I'm still not sure. This is a topology course so no difficult analysis type theorems should be involved I think. To prove that the function (not its inverse) is continuous is it sufficient to say that it is a rational function who's denominator is non-zero on the interval?
I can't think of any simpler trig function to use either.

That is "whose", not "who's". Think about tan(x) appropriately modified. Hard for us to know what theorems your instructor expects you to know and use. At some level, your statement about rational function would be sufficient to claim continuity.
 


Hehe thanks for the spelling tip. Is it really so simple as f(x) = tan(pi*x/2) and
x = (2/pi)arctan(y)?
And hopefully since these are well known functions I don't have to prove that they're continuous right?
 


Hopefully :-p
 


Hi,I am doing a question very similar to this, but still don't understand... can you possibly explain further?
 


mathstime said:
Hi,I am doing a question very similar to this, but still don't understand... can you possibly explain further?

What don't you understand?
 
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sorry, I think I get it now, but is it just enough to say that since f(x) as above is continuous and bijective, and x is continuous, therefore (-1,1) homeomorphic to the reals?
 
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The inverse* of a continuous bijection need not be continuous.

*: as defined when viewing it as a function on the underlying sets[/size]
 
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oh ok, it's just a definition that I have written down says a homeomorphic function must be continuous and invertible and the inverse function must also be continuous? Is that not necessarily true?

so for madness' question above for example, would it suffice to say:

Take f(x) as tan(pi*x/2) and f^-1(x) as (2/pi)arctan(y)

this shows that (-1,1) is homeomorphic to the reals?
That seems too easy? Does anything else need to be proved?
 
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mathstime said:
oh ok, it's just a definition that I have written down says a homeomorphic function must be continuous and invertible and the inverse function must also be continuous? Is that not necessarily true?
No, what you said here is true.

It is also true that there exist continuous bijections whose inverse is not continuous.

So when taken together, what do these imply?
 
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the inverse of a continuous bijection need not be continuous, but the inverse of a homeomorphic function must be continuous? ...hence the idea of a homeomorphism?
 

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