Prove Uniform Continuity: y^2 arctan y - x^2 arctan x

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The discussion revolves around proving uniform continuity for the function defined by the expression \( y^2 \arctan y - x^2 \arctan x \) under the condition \( y \geq x \geq 0 \). Participants explore inequalities involving this expression and its implications for uniform continuity on the positive reals.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to establish inequalities between the expressions in parts (a) and (b) and question the triviality of these results. They also explore the implications of these inequalities for uniform continuity in part (c), raising questions about the correctness of their reasoning and the need for a proof by contradiction.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confidence in the correctness of parts (a) and (b), while others suggest that part (c) requires further development and a more rigorous approach. There is an ongoing examination of the differences between the statements in parts (a) and (b), as well as the implications of the mean value theorem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the need for careful handling of inequalities and the definitions related to uniform continuity. There is a mention of specific values for epsilon and delta in the context of uniform continuity proofs.

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Homework Statement


Prove that if y>=x>=0:
a) [tex]y^2 arctan y - x^2 arctan x >= (y^2 - x^2) arctan x[/tex]

b) [tex]\ | \ y^2 arctan y - x^2 arctan x \ | \ >= (y^2 - x^2) arctan x[/tex]

c) use (b) to prove that x^2 arctan(x) isn't UC in R.

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The Attempt at a Solution



a) We have to prove that [tex]y^2 ( arctan y - arctan x ) >= 0[/tex]
And since arctan(y) - arctan(x) >= 0 for all y>=x and y^2 > 0 this is true.
b)Since [tex]y^2 arctan y - x^2 arctan x >= 0[/tex] for all y>=x>=0 then this is obviously true from a.

c)If we choose Epsilon (E) = 1/2 , Lambda (L) > 0 and y = x+L then
(y^2 - x^2)arctan(x) = (2xL - L^2)arctanx and the limit of that at infinity is infinity. So we can find N>0 so that for every x>N
(y^2 - x^2)arctan(x) = |y^2 arctan(y) - x^2 arctan(x)| > E

Now my questions are:
1) a & b seemed too trivial -are those the right are answers?
2)Is (c) right?

Thanks.
 
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How are a and b different?
 
Oops, in b you need to prove that
|y^2 arctan(y) - x^2 arctan(x)| >= (y^2 - x^2)arctanx
the same as (a) just with the absolute value on the right.
Thanks.
 
These look suspiciously like mean value theorem applications.
 
These look suspiciously like mean value theorem applications.

Edit: Sorry for me being a dolt.

a and b are both correct. The reasoning is thusly: Suppose y>x>=0

We have [itex]arctan(y)\ge\arctan(x)[/itex] since [itex]f(x)=\arctan(x)[/itex] is monotonically increasing ([itex]f' \ge 0[/itex] on that particular domain). Therefore [itex]y^2\arctan(y)-x^2\arctan(x) \ge 0[/itex]. Since [itex]arctan(y)\ge\arctan(x)[/itex] we have [itex]y^2\arctan(y)-x^2arctan(x) \ge y^2\arctan(x)-x^2\arctan(x)=(y^2-x^2)\arctan(x)[/itex].

b follows since both sides are positive, hence their absolute values are the same.

you haven't properly finished c. "(y^2 - x^2)arctan(x) = |y^2 arctan(y) - x^2 arctan(x)| > E" is dead wrong, as the equality does not hold. You actually want to be doing a proof by contradiction. Suppose it was U.C. on the positive reals. Let E=1/2. Suppose L is the delta that works, ie for |y-x|<L then |f(y)-f(x)|<E=1/2. Since y>x then y=x+a for some constant a>0. Etc Etc and look for your contradiction. Your idea was right, that for large enough x, regardless of distance between x and y, the difference between f(x) and f(y) exceed 1/2.

I would do a finishing statement, saying something along the lines of "therefore, there does not exist any L>0 such that when |y-x|<L, |f(y)-f(x)|<1/2, ie, f is not UC on the positive reals.

A cople of notes, use \ge and \le for your greater/less then or equal to signs. Classically we use the definitions of [itex]|x-y|<\delta, |f(x)-f(y)|<\epsilon[/itex], which is no big deal.
 
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| "(y^2 - x^2)arctan(x) = |y^2 arctan(y) - x^2 arctan(x)| > E" is dead
| wrong, as the equality does not hold.
But isn't it enough to prove that there's some N>0 so that for all x>N it holds?
Thanks.
 

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