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$a^2-bc-8a+7=0$
$b^2+c^2+bc-6a+6=0$
prove:$1\leq a\leq9$
$b^2+c^2+bc-6a+6=0$
prove:$1\leq a\leq9$
The discussion revolves around proving the inequality \(1 \leq a \leq 9\) in the context of two quadratic equations involving the variables \(a\), \(b\), and \(c\). The scope includes mathematical reasoning and potential solutions to the problem posed.
Participants express appreciation for the methods discussed, but there is no clear consensus on a definitive solution or proof for the inequality.
The discussion does not clarify any assumptions or dependencies related to the variables \(b\) and \(c\), nor does it resolve any mathematical steps necessary for the proof.
very good ! working backwards is also a nice method,it gives us a hint to work forwards.anemone said:My solution:I cheated a bit because my solution is sort of working backwards, since we know we have to prove that $1\le a \le 9$.Since $(a-1)(a-9)=a^2-10a+9$, we manipulate the first equation algebraically to get: $a^2-10a+9+2a-2-bc=0$ $a^2-10a+9=bc-2(a-1)$(*) Rewrite the second equation such that it becomes $b^2+c^2+bc-6a+6=0$ $6(a-1)=(b-c)^2+3bc$ $2(a-1)=\dfrac{(b-c)^2}{3}+bc$ Substitute the above into (*) yields $a^2-10a+9=bc-\left(\dfrac{(b-c)^2}{3}+bc \right)=-\dfrac{(b-c)^2}{3}\le 0$ $\therefore a^2-10a+9 \le 0$ this shows $1\leq a\leq9$ and we're done.
Albert said:$a^2-bc-8a+7=0$
$b^2+c^2+bc-6a+6=0$
prove:$1\leq a\leq9$
very nice !kaliprasad said:we have from 2nd equation
$b^2+c^2+bc = 6a- 6\ \cdots (1)$
from 1st equation
$bc = a^2-8a + 7\ \cdots (2)$
multiply (2) by 3 and subtract from (1)
$(b-c)^2 = 6a-6 - 3(a^2- 8a +7)$
=$-3a^2+30a-27$
=$-3(a^2-10a+9)$
so $a^2-10a + 9 \le 0$
hence $1 \le a \le 9$