Proving Non-Integrability of f(x,y) on [-1,1]×[-1,1]

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The discussion revolves around proving that the function \( f(x,y) = \frac{xy}{(x^{2}+y^{2})^{2}} \) is not Henstock integrable over the region \([-1,1] \times [-1,1]\). Participants are exploring the implications of this integrability condition and the behavior of the function, particularly at the origin where it is defined to be zero.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants suggest starting with a proof by contradiction regarding integrability. Others question the definition of Henstock integrability and its relevance to the problem. There is also a discussion about treating the function as piecewise to address the behavior at the origin.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing insights and clarifications about the function and the concept of Henstock integrability. Some have provided hints regarding the integral's behavior away from the origin, indicating a potential direction for exploration.

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Participants note that the problem may involve advanced material typically covered in graduate studies, and there is a recognition of the complexity of the topic. The mention of computational tools like Maple or Mathematica suggests that traditional numerical methods may not be applicable in this context.

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Homework Statement


Prove [itex]\int\int_{[-1,1]×[-1,1]}f(x,y)dA[/itex] is not Henstock Integrable.

Homework Equations


[itex]f(x,y) = \frac{xy}{(x^{2}+y^{2})^{2}}[/itex]
[itex]f(x,y) = 0[/itex] if [itex]x^{2}+y^{2}=0[/itex] on the region [-1,1]×[-1,1]

The Attempt at a Solution


The only hints given is that we will not be able to solve in Maple or Mathematica by using trapezoidable interagtion techniques.

I'm assuming I would start by trying to prove that it is integrable and use contradiction to solve my answer.
 
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The Captain said:

Homework Statement


Prove [itex]\int\int_{[-1,1]×[-1,1]}f(x,y)dA[/itex] is not Henstock Integrable.

Homework Equations


[itex]f(x,y) = \frac{xy}{(x^{2}+y^{2})^{2}}[/itex]
[itex]f(x,y) = 0[/itex] if [itex]x^{2}+y^{2}=0[/itex] on the region [-1,1]×[-1,1]

The Attempt at a Solution


The only hints given is that we will not be able to solve in Maple or Mathematica by using trapezoidable interagtion techniques.

I'm assuming I would start by trying to prove that it is integrable and use contradiction to solve my answer.

What does it mean to be Henstock integrable? That's not a term I've ever heard.

[STRIKE]In any case, your second equation above doesn't apply. x2 + y2 ≠ 0 for any real x and y.[/STRIKE]
Edit: Wrote the above without thinking too clearly.
 
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Henstock-Kurzweil Integral is used in Real Analysis. I'm pretty sure my class is being taught material that is generally left for graduate school, however since my professor did his PhD studies on it, thinks we can handle it.

As for the second equation, we are to think of f(x,y) as a piecewise function. That way we can deal with when both x and y are zero at the same time.
 
Sorry about that incorrect comment in my previous post. I was thinking x2 + y2 ≥ 0, and that somehow that meant that x2 + y2 ≠ 0.
 
I think it's clear the problem is in 0. Try to find out what the integral is on ##([-1,1]\times[-1,1])\setminus ([-\varepsilon,\varepsilon]\times [-\varepsilon,\varepsilon])## and let ##\varepsilon\rightarrow 0##.
 

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