Proving Preserved Temporal Order of Cause and Effect

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The discussion centers on proving that the temporal order of cause and effect is preserved across different reference frames, specifically using Lorentz transformation equations. It is established that if event A causes event B, then in any reference frame, event B cannot occur before event A. The participants explore the mathematical inequalities derived from the Lorentz transformations, focusing on demonstrating that the time difference between events remains positive. They conclude that the relationship between the spatial and temporal coordinates ensures that causality is maintained, regardless of the observer's frame of reference. This reinforces the principle that information cannot travel faster than the speed of light, thus preserving the order of events.
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Homework Statement



Because there is no such thing as absolute simultaneity, two observers in relative motion may disagree on which of two events A and B occurred first. Suppose, however, that an observer in reference frame S measures that event A occurred first and caused event B. For example, event A might be pushing a light switch, and event B might be a light bulb turning on. Prove that an observer in another frame S' cannot measure event B (the effect) occurring before event A (the cause). The temporal order of cause and effect is preserved by the Lorentz transformation equations. Hint: For event A to cause event B, information must have traveled from A to B, and the fastest that anything can travel is the speed of light.

Homework Equations



Suppose (x_{A},y_{A},z_{A},t_{A}),(x_{B},y_{B},z_{B},t_{B}) are the coordinates in the coordinate system S, and (x'_{A},y'_{A},z'_{A},t'_{A}),(x'_{B},y'_{B},z'_{B},t'_{B}) are the coordinates in the coordinate system S', which is traveling at speed u<c in the positive x direction. Then from the Lorentz transformation equations,
t'_{A}=\frac{t_{A}-(u x_{A}/c^{2})}{\sqrt{1-(u^{2}/c^{2})}}
t'_{B}=\frac{t_{B}-(u x_{B}/c^{2})}{\sqrt{1-(u^{2}/c^{2})}}
x'_{A}=\frac{x_{A}-u t_{A}}{\sqrt{1-(u^{2}/c^{2})}}
x'_{B}=\frac{x_{B}-u t_{B}}{\sqrt{1-(u^{2}/c^{2})}}
y'_{A}=y_{A}
y'_{B}=y_{B}
z'_{A}=z_{A}
z'_{B}=z_{B}

Because B happened after A,
t_{B} > t_{A}

Because event A caused event B,
\frac{\sqrt{(x_{B}-x_{A})^{2} + (y_{B}-y_{A})^{2} + (z_{B}-z_{A})^{2}}}{t_{B}-t_{A}} \leq c

The Attempt at a Solution



I need to prove that t'_{B} - t'_{A} > 0

t'_{B}-t'_{A} = \frac{(t_{B} - t_{A})-(u/c^{2})(x_{B}-x_{A})}{\sqrt{1-(u^{2}/c^{2})}}

What do I do now?
 
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Since the denominator is positive, you just need to show the numerator is positive. That is, prove that
t_B-t_A > (u/c^2)(x_B-x_A)
 


I can't think of any way of proving that. Which equations should I use?
 


The one you already wrote:
\frac{\sqrt{(x_{B}-x_{A})^{2} + (y_{B}-y_{A})^{2} + (z_{B}-z_{A})^{2}}}{t_{B}-t_{A}} \leq c
 


But those are squared terms.

It implies that,

(x_{B} - x_{A})^{2} \leq c^{2} (t_{B} - t_{A})^{2}

So,

\lvert x_{B} - x_{A} \rvert \leq c (t_{B} - t_{A})
\frac{u}{c^{2}} \lvert x_{B} - x_{A} \rvert < (t_{B} - t_{A})

This could be either \frac{u}{c^{2}} ( x_{B} - x_{A} ) < (t_{B} - t_{A}) or \frac{u}{c^{2}} ( x_{A} - x_{B} ) < (t_{B} - t_{A}) depending on whether x_{B} > x_{A} or not.
 


Oh, OK. If x_{A} > x_{B}, then,
t_{B} - t_{A} > \frac{u}{c^{2}} (x_{A} - x_{B}) > \frac{u}{c^{2}} (x_{B} - x_{A}), since then(x_{B} - x_{A}) is negative and (x_{A} - x_{B}) is positive.

Thanks!
 
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