Proving sinx+cosx is not one-one in [0,π/2]

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The discussion revolves around proving that the function sin(x) + cos(x) is not one-one in the interval [0, π/2]. Participants are exploring the properties of the function and the implications of its behavior within the specified domain.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants attempt to demonstrate the one-one nature of the function by equating values and manipulating the equation. Some question the validity of taking inverses without considering the domain, while others suggest using calculus to analyze the function's slope.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made regarding the function's behavior. Some participants have pointed out contradictions in the original reasoning, and there is a recognition that the function behaves differently over the specified interval. Guidance has been offered regarding the importance of domain when considering inverses.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the sine function is not one-one and emphasize the need to consider the domain when making conclusions about the function's properties. There is a discussion about specific values, such as x=0 and x=π/2, and how they relate to the overall behavior of the function.

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Homework Statement



Prove that sinx+cosx is not one-one in [0,π/2]

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The Attempt at a Solution



Let f(α)=f(β)
Then sinα+cosα=sinβ+cosβ
=> √2sin(α+π/4)=√2sin(β+π/4)
=> α=β
so it has to be one-one
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AdityaDev said:

Homework Statement



Prove that sinx+cosx is not one-one in [0,π/2]

Homework Equations



None

The Attempt at a Solution



Let f(α)=f(β)
Then sinα+cosα=sinβ+cosβ
=> √2sin(α+π/4)=√2sin(β+π/4)
=> α=β
so it has to be one-one[/B]

The sine function is not one-one. You can't just invert it without thinking about the domain. Try x=0 and x=pi/2. What do you say now?
 
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You can also use calculus.
Differentiate the given function.
It must always have a positive or negative slope but not both.
 
Dick said:
The sine function is not one-one. You can't just invert it without thinking about the domain. Try x=0 and x=pi/2. What do you say now?
I know that. But the result I got is contradicting.
 
AdityaDev said:
I know that. But the result I got is contradicting.
As dick said, you can't take inverse simply like that. Your 3rd step is wrong and that's why your result is wrong.
The inverse taking depends on domain.
For example f(x) = x2 is not one-one for domain R.
It might seem so.
x12= x22
Taking square root on both sides.
X1= x2
But that's not correct.
 
Raghav Gupta said:
As dick said, you can't take inverse simply like that. Your 3rd step is wrong and that's why your result is wrong.
The inverse taking depends on domain.
For example f(x) = x2 is not one-one for domain R.
It might seem so.
x12= x22
Taking square root on both sides.
X1= x2
But that's not correct.
Why can't I take inverse diretly?
In your example, I know that x1=x2 or -x2
but here you can say that from 0 to pi/4, x1=x2
 
AdityaDev said:
Why can't I take inverse diretly?
In your example, I know that x1=x2 or -x2
but here you can say that from 0 to pi/4, x1=x2
Yes here 0 to pi/4 your function is one-one but 0 to pi/2 it is not one-one.
See this,
Log 0 is not defined and taking inverse or anti log of it would seem to someone it's zero. But we cannot take here simply the inverse.
So for particular domains we can't take the inverse.
 

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