Proving the Convergence of x_n for x_0 > √2: A Comprehensive Analysis

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Homework Statement



Show that

x_n = \frac{x_{n-1}}{2} + \frac{1}{x_{n-1}} converges.

x_0 > \sqrt2

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The Attempt at a Solution



I am semi-stumped.

I guess I can use the AM-GM on x_n to show that it is greater than root 2.

Then show that x_n - x_{n-1} < 0


I think that solutions uses too much stuff.


I am looking hints at other solutions.
 
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Your recursive sequence is closely related to the function f(x)=x/2+1/x, in that x_n=f(x_(n-1)). It might be interesting to know where f is increasing and decreasing. Hint?
 
Dick said:
Your recursive sequence is closely related to the function f(x)=x/2+1/x, in that x_n=f(x_(n-1)). It might be interesting to know where f is increasing and decreasing. Hint?

Cool, I guess calculus is not that useless (joke). :P

So f(x) is increasing for |x| > \sqrt2.
f(x) is decreasing when |x| < sqrt(2)

That is no good.
 
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Any further hints ?
 
╔(σ_σ)╝ said:
Any further hints ?

If x_n does converge, what must its limit be? You can easily determine this by taking limits of both sides of the defining recurrence relation.
 
╔(σ_σ)╝ said:
Any further hints ?

I meant to say look at f(x)-x. That's what tells you whether x_n is greater than or less than f(x_n-1). Sorry.
 
jbunniii said:
If x_n does converge, what must its limit be? You can easily determine this by taking limits of both sides of the defining recurrence relation.

I know what the limit should be. In fact, I already know the solution to the problem but I want a different solution.
I don't like this solution

x_n - x_{n-1} = \frac{1}{x_{n-1}} - \frac{x_{n-1}}{2}

\frac{1}{x_{n-1}} - \frac{x_{n-1}}{2} &lt; 0

Implies

{x_{n-1}}^2 &gt; 2

Now I still need to use the fact that x_n &gt; \sqrt2:/.
Dick said:
I meant to say look at f(x)-x. That's what tells you whether x_n is greater than or less than f(x_n-1). Sorry.

It's okay, it's late at night. :)

So

f(x) -x = -x/2 + 1/x

f(x) -x < 0 when |x| > sqrt(2)This helps me out.

Anyway, at some point I would need to show that x_n > sqrt(2) :$. Any suggestions that do not use AM-GM.
 
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╔(σ_σ)╝ said:
I know what the limit should be. In fact, I already know the solution to the problem but I want a different solution.
I don't like this solution

x_n - x_{n-1} = \frac{1}{x_{n-1}} - \frac{x_{n-1}}{2}

\frac{1}{x_{n-1}} - \frac{x_{n-1}}{2} &lt; 0

Implies

{x_{n-1}}^2 &gt; 2

Now I still need to use the fact that x_n &gt; \sqrt2:/.




It's okay, it's late at night. :)

So

f(x) -x = -x/2 + 1/x

f(x) -x < 0 when |x| > sqrt(2)


This helps me out.

Anyway, at some point I would need to show that x_n > sqrt(2) :$. Any suggestions that do not use AM-GM.

Ok then. You ARE interested in where f(x) is increasing and decreasing. f(x)-sqrt(2) is 0 for x=sqrt(2) and increasing for x>sqrt(2). So if x0>sqrt(2), then f(x0)-sqrt(2)>0.
 
Dick said:
Ok then. You ARE interested in where f(x) is increasing and decreasing. f(x)-sqrt(2) is 0 for x=sqrt(2) and increasing for x>sqrt(2). So if x0>sqrt(2), then f(x0)-sqrt(2)>0.
Okay thanks a lot for the help.
 
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