Proving the equation for the height of a cylinder

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SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on deriving the relationship between the height of a cylinder and the dimensions of a sphere from which it is removed. The volume of the cylinder is expressed as V=πr²h, leading to the conclusion that h can be represented as h=√(A²-a²) when considering the sphere's radius A and the cylinder's radius a. Participants clarify the definitions of variables and the geometric relationships involved, ultimately proving that the volume depends solely on the height of the cylinder.

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Homework Statement


Consider a sphere of radius A from which a central cylinder of radius a (where 0 < a < A ) has been removed.
Write down a double or a triple integral (your choice) for the volume of this band, evaluate the integral, and show that the volume depends only upon the height of the band.

Homework Equations


V=pi*r^2*h

The Attempt at a Solution


I've finished all the necessary integrals and arrived at 4/3*pi*(a^2-b^2)^3/2. The answer in the textbook states that (a^2-b^2)^3/2=h^3. so that'd mean that sqrt(a^2-b^2) = h. I don't know how to prove that relationship, however, so that is my biggest problem with this question.
 
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What is ##b##?
 
LCKurtz said:
What is ##b##?
b is the radius of the cylinder which I am cutting out of the sphere, sorry that I didn't explain that earlier.
 
Your original statement of the problem says the radius of the cylinder is ##a##.
 
LCKurtz said:
Your original statement of the problem says the radius of the cylinder is ##a##.
I set b to be the lower boundary of r. So the final value should have really said: 4/3*pi*(A^2-a^2)^3/2, where A is the radius of the sphere and a is the cylinder radius. I just need to know how (A^2-a^2)^3/2 = h^3
 
It helps to be clear what the variables are. In your OP you stated the volume of the cylinder is ##\pi r^2 h## which implies you are using ##h## as the height of the cylinder. If that is the case, then ##\frac h 2 =\sqrt{A^2-a^2}##. But if you are using ##h## for half the height of the cylinder, then ##h =\sqrt{A^2-a^2}## which would give you your formula.
 
LCKurtz said:
It helps to be clear what the variables are. In your OP you stated the volume of the cylinder is ##\pi r^2 h## which implies you are using ##h## as the height of the cylinder. If that is the case, then ##\frac h 2 =\sqrt{A^2-a^2}##. But if you are using ##h## for half the height of the cylinder, then ##h =\sqrt{A^2-a^2}## which would give you your formula.
Wait what's the equation where you got that h equals that?Do you set the volume of the cylinder equal to something?
 
Mohamed Abdul said:
Wait what's the equation where you got that h equals that? Do you set the volume of the cylinder equal to something?
Draw a picture of the cross section of your figure and label radii and height in the figure.There's an obvious right triangle in there.
 
LCKurtz said:
Draw a picture of the cross section of your figure and label radii and height in the figure.There's an obvious right triangle in there.
I'm drawing the picture but I'm not seeing anything. I set the triangle up along the edge of the sphere and got a base of A-a, but I'm not sure of the angles to find the other side lengths.
 
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Here's a picture where ##h## is half the height of the cylinder:
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LCKurtz said:
Here's a picture where ##h## is half the height of the cylinder:
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Thank you, I understand that half the height would equal the square root of the square of the distances between A and a
 

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