Proving vector identities using Cartesian tensor notation

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The discussion focuses on proving the vector identity ∇·(B x A) = (∇ x A)·B - A·(∇ x B) using Cartesian tensor notation. One participant attempts to establish the identity but struggles with the notation and differentiation, particularly with the indices and the application of the product rule. They also seek clarification on calculating the partial derivative of a quadratic form involving constant tensors. Another contributor points out the errors in notation and suggests using the product rule for differentiation while clarifying the independence of the variables involved. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correct notation and understanding the properties of partial derivatives in tensor calculus.
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Homework Statement


1. Establish the vector identity
<br /> <br /> \nabla . (B x A) = (\nabla x A).B - A.(\nabla x B)<br />

2. Calculate the partial derivative with respect to x_{k} of the quadratic form A_{rs}x_{r}x_{s} with the A_{rs} all constant, i.e. calculate A_{rs}x_{r}x_{s,k}

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1.
<br /> <br /> \nabla . (B x A) = \epsilon_{ijk}A_{j}B_{k,i}<br />

Now I don't know what to do next.

2.

<br /> A_{rs}x_{r}x_{s,k} = A_{rs}\partial_{k}(x_{r}x_{s}) = A_{rs}(x_{r}\partial_k x_{s} + x_{s}\partial_k x_{r})

I have no idea if this is right or not.

I'm pretty good at proving vector identities (and Cartesian tensor notation in general), but I get lost when partial derivatives/nablas are involved. Any tips would be greatly appreciated!

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Your notation is unclear and misleading. When you write \nabla\cdot(B\times A) = \epsilon_{ijk}A_j B_{k,i}, it looks like you're only differentiating Bk. Also, you got the indices wrong since you have BxA, not AxB. On the other hand, you should have \nabla\cdot(A \times B) on the LHS anyway.

Instead, you should write

\nabla\cdot(A \times B) = \partial_i (\epsilon_{ijk} A_j B_k) = \epsilon_{ijk} \partial_i (A_j B_k)

Use the product rule to differentiate and then convert back to vector notation.In the second problem, use the fact that the x's are independent, so \partial_i x_j = 0 if i \ne j and \partial_i x_j = 1 if i = j, i.e. \partial_i x_j = \delta_{ij}.
 
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