Pulley Diameter knowing only force and motor specifications

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The discussion revolves around determining the diameters of pulleys in a belt drive system, given limited known factors, including the lifting force on the larger pulley and motor specifications. The focus is on the relationship between the pulleys and the calculations needed to find their sizes based on torque and pulley ratios.

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Main Points Raised

  • Participants inquire about the method to calculate the diameters of the pulleys based on the known lifting force and motor specifications.
  • One participant suggests calculating torque using the formula τ = F * a, but expresses uncertainty due to the unknown radius of the larger pulley.
  • Another participant points out that the force on the lever arm of one of the pulleys and the diameter ratio may be more critical than the absolute sizes of the pulleys for solving the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on how to proceed with the calculations, and there are differing views on the importance of the absolute sizes versus the ratio of the pulleys.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the application of torque calculations without knowing the radius of the larger pulley, and the discussion does not resolve the implications of moment of inertia (MOI) issues.

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Determine the size of pulleys in a belt drive system where only known factors force in the bigger pulley and motor specifications used to drive the smaller pulley.
Hello,

How to determine the pulley diameters? The only know factors are listed below.
The smaller pulley is attached to a motor that drives the belt drive system. The bigger pulley is driven and has a lifting force of 45N.

Known factors:
How to determine either the smaller or bigger pulley diameter?
 

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mr_xyz said:
Summary: Determine the size of pulleys in a belt drive system where only known factors force in the bigger pulley and motor specifications used to drive the smaller pulley.

Hello,

How to determine the pulley diameters? The only know factors are listed below.
The smaller pulley is attached to a motor that drives the belt drive system. The bigger pulley is driven and has a lifting force of 45N.

Known factors:
How to determine either the smaller or bigger pulley diameter?
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

Are you familiar with how to calculate torque, given the force and the length of the lever arm? Could you show us your initial torque calculations for this problem? Thanks.
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

Are you familiar with how to calculate torque, given the force and the length of the lever arm? Could you show us your initial torque calculations for this problem? Thanks.

Hi, thank you for your reply :smile:

Yes I am, I know that τ = F * a
My problem is that I don't have the radius of the bigger pulley, which I assume would be the lever arm. So I'm a bit stuck with finding the torque for the big pulley.
 
mr_xyz said:
Yes I am, I know that τ = F * a
My problem is that I don't have the radius of the bigger pulley, which I assume would be the lever arm. So I'm a bit stuck with finding the torque for the big pulley.
But you have the force on the lever arm of one of the pulleys, and you have the ratio of their diameters. Other than MOI issues, the absolute size of the pulleys would seem to matter less than the ratio for this problem, no?
 

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