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So one might argue that mixed states are classical.In summary, there is a deep connection between mixed states and classical systems, as seen in the fact that thermal states are mixed and classical. However, mixed states are not necessarily classical, as demonstrated by the example of classical, thermal light passing through a polarizer.
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I am reading something, and came across pure/mixed states. Considering that mixed states do not have the coherence terms (off-diagonal terms) in the density matrix, there seems to be a deep connection between mixed states and a classical system. This is also emphasized by the fact that a thermal state is mixed, and thermal states are also very classical.

Are mixed states basically classical?


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Considering that mixed states do not have the coherence terms (off-diagonal terms) in the density matrix,
Mixed states need _not_ have diagonal matrix elements.
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there seems to be a deep connection between mixed states and a classical system. This is also emphasized by the fact that a thermal state is mixed, and thermal states are also very classical.

Are mixed states basically classical?
No. If you put classical, thermal light through a polarizer, the polarization state gets pure, but the light still remains classical.

But macroscopic states are usually classical and (since thermal) mixed.
 

1. What is the definition of a mixed state in classical physics?

A mixed state in classical physics refers to a state in which a physical system has properties that cannot be fully described by a single classical state. This can occur when the system is in a superposition of multiple classical states, making it impossible to determine the exact state of the system.

2. How is a mixed state different from a pure state in classical physics?

A pure state in classical physics refers to a state in which a physical system has a definite set of properties that can be fully described by a single classical state. In contrast, a mixed state has properties that cannot be fully described by a single classical state, making it a more complex state of the system.

3. Can a mixed state be described using classical mechanics?

No, a mixed state cannot be fully described using classical mechanics. Classical mechanics is based on the principle of determinism, which states that the state of a system at any given time can be determined if its initial conditions and the laws of nature are known. However, a mixed state violates this principle, making it impossible to fully describe using classical mechanics.

4. Are mixed states only relevant in quantum mechanics?

No, mixed states are not only relevant in quantum mechanics. While they are commonly discussed in the context of quantum physics, they can also occur in classical physics. A mixed state in classical physics is simply a state that cannot be fully described by a single classical state, and this can occur in various physical systems.

5. Are there any real-world applications of mixed states in classical physics?

Yes, there are real-world applications of mixed states in classical physics, particularly in the field of statistical mechanics. Mixed states play a crucial role in understanding the behavior of complex systems, such as gases and liquids, and are essential for predicting their macroscopic properties.

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