Puzzled by aqueous solution terminology

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The discussion revolves around the notation used for solutions of ionic compounds, specifically why sodium chloride is represented as NaCl(aq) rather than as Na+(aq) + Cl-(aq). The first notation implies the presence of the ionic compound in solution, while the second indicates the individual ions, which may not be in equal concentrations. When multiple ionic compounds, such as sodium chloride and potassium nitrate, are dissolved together, the notation NaCl(aq) + KNO3(aq) is preferred, as it avoids ambiguity about the presence of potential products like NaNO3(aq) and KCl(aq). The conversation highlights the importance of clarity in chemical notation, especially in complex solutions, and emphasizes that concentrations of individual ions are more precise for understanding the composition of a solution. Additionally, a question is raised about the possibility of isolating specific ions, such as pure chloride gas, as opposed to chlorine gas, indicating an interest in the feasibility of isolating ions in their elemental forms.
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I'm just beginning to learn general chemistry, and I'm reading my textbook's chapter on aqueous solutions.

My question is, why do we term a solution of an ionic compound (like NaCl) like this:

NaCl(aq)​

instead of:

Na+(aq) + Cl-(aq)​

? Technically, when the sodium chloride is dissolved in water, the ions dissociate, and they are no longer the ionic compound "sodium chloride", they're just sodium and chloride ions floating in the water willy-nilly, right?



And then, what if you dissolved sodium chloride and potassium nitrate into the same water. Would you write,

NaCl(aq) + KNO3(aq)​

? How do you know that it hasn't become:

NaNO3(aq) + KCl(aq)​

?
 
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dgm said:
why do we term a solution of an ionic compound (like NaCl) like this:

NaCl(aq)​

instead of:

Na+(aq) + Cl-(aq)​

The first notation suggests identical concentrations of Na+ and Cl-, the second suggests solution that contains both ions, but their concentrations are not necessarily identical. But don't pay too much attention to this - this is a simplified notation, and it is not necessarily precise/unambiguous.

Technically, when the sodium chloride is dissolved in water, the ions dissociate, and they are no longer the ionic compound "sodium chloride", they're just sodium and chloride ions floating in the water willy-nilly, right?

Yes.

And then, what if you dissolved sodium chloride and potassium nitrate into the same water. Would you write,

NaCl(aq) + KNO3(aq)​

? How do you know that it hasn't become:

NaNO3(aq) + KCl(aq)​

?

Technically it is impossible to find out what salts have been dissolved, which is why - especially in the case of natural waters - we give not amounts of salts dissolved, but concentrations of individual ions, this is unambiguous and precise.

If the solution was prepared by dissolving NaCl and KNO3 first notation suggests identical concentrations of Na+ and Cl-, and identical concentrations of K+ and NO3-, the second notation suggests something else. Again, don't treat the notation too religiously, it is often used in ambiguous way or even abused. When it matters, there are better ways of telling what we mean.
 
Thanks. :)

Another question that's been bugging me lately: is it possible to isolate certain ions, so that they are not part of any compound? Like, would it be possible to manufacture a container of pure chloride gas, as opposed to chlorine gas?
 
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